Poacher Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Do they realise what they are messing with Why should we play little games with these idiots, everyone is on egg shells not wishing to tip this country (and their psychopathic leader) over the edge. And to think they're developing nuclear weapons. If this country ever wanted to worsen its image this has to be the best way to do it..Give us back our men or else you may experience some global warming, about 3000degrees in 2 seconds in the form of Trident !!! What do you guys reckon, is that fact that we're still in Iraq put people off going for Iran or am i just being stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flash Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 i think the problem is more that iran know we cant fight a war with then and win without using a tactical nuke, or trident as u said, are forces are to far stretched between iraw,kosovo, afghanistan etc. and if they do decide to cross over the border into iraq and attack our troops, we are screwed. there almost trying to force the british army to launch a nucleur strike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 If America was not so overstretched already I think you can be fairly sure Iran would have been invaded. For the safety of the captured troops, I think it is prudent for the government to play nice. It's a ll a big PR exercise for the citizens of Iran. It is only in there interest to hold onto the soldiers for slightly longer then everyone suspects and then give them back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naddan28 Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 I agree with Teal, we are really forced into a situation where we have to play nice for hostages. plus, dont forget that if you invade Iran as well it could cause the entire middle east to cave in on us (while still out there!). I think that in order to tackle Iran, we would need a UN colition like Desert Storm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 I really cant buy into the whole " we have nukes but you arent allowed any " style of thinking. The sooner people stop thinking we are the special constables to Bushes police the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poacher Posted March 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 I really cant buy into the whole " we have nukes but you arent allowed any " style of thinking. The sooner people stop thinking we are the special constables to Bushes police the better. You think they can be trusted then do you :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/worl...icle1563877.ece if any of these men are hurt the **** will really hit the fan. the yanks are up in arms now about it so god knows what will happen if they are shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 I say smuggle a few nukes in small cases and place the strategically round Iran and their leaders home and then detonate them and claim it was THEIR nukes THEY were building went off in their own hands :blink: LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 I reckon they can be trusted more than bush for sure. Was Iraq a threat to us ? Nope, yet our boys are getting mullered over there. Did the Afghans let slip plans for world domination ? ditto and ditto. It is / was a case of justifying massive armed forces and huge spending on arms. Hell, why have it and not use it ? The usa are always spoling for a fight despite the fact they really are **** at it. The hearts and minds approach addopted by our forces are totally lost on the us army whose stock approach is out gun them and ask when the dust settles. When one of our boys loses his life fighting in second rate gear in a country that posed no threat other than in a deluded presidents mind its tragic. When a gung ho yank cops it by beleiving they are the best goddam fighting force in the world ? **it happens. And it will continue to happen untill the rest of the world looks back to see who really needs policing, oil rich states or the one running out of black gold and actively looking for armed conflict. One final point, lets use our new tridents on that peice of verminous scum mugabe, although as he is black it wouldnt be politically correct. I seriously hope he dies slower than the people he is starving to death and bush wakes up to it but neither will happen :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P03 Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 They'll let them go in a few days.......they just like to show off on telly for a while saying "look aren't we great, we're not afraid of the infidels" if it looks like it may turn nasty they'll release them toute suite 'cos they know the US are looking for any excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahin Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 b]HALF IRANIAN'S POINT OF VIEW[/b] secondly, i dont know if any of you have heard this but they men have admitted to being in iranian waters so they are in every right to capture them (not hurt but question why) The men will be returned safe and sound within a few days. Nothing will ever happen to them as neither side want a war. but neither side will back down-hence why there is a problem. the great AMERICA with only a few years history do not like people standing up to them. There is a name for this. its called "BULLY". Iran is only really winding america up, pulling their leg and America have taken the bait. You lot all sit here getting wound up about this subject, in Iran they will be laughing. The real issue here is the amount of pestering America has given Iran about its nuclear programme. Many attempts and still nothing - where is the proof Iran are building bombs??? sorry cant hear you??? why is it ok for other countries i e america england etc. to have nuclear weapons but no one else No country will start a nuclear war as everybody knows the effects of these weapons. so why are America still building them? 100 quid to whoever answers this question correctly I bet nobody on here leaving bad messages about Iran has ever been there or know any iranians - if you did you would understand they are not that bad and you are unbelievably stupid to believe everything you see on T.V (propaganda) It really does show something when most asian countries burn american flags but only a few countries dislike iran. law of averages would show the yanks are the bad guys. now... lets just say there was a war, whoever thinks america would fly over drop a few bombs and they would crumble like iraq and Afghanistan - YOUR WRONG!!!! Iran would unleash hell on them. they might not be able to fly to america but any yank in an iranians sight would be shot at. Not just in iran. If they attacked iran they would be fighting many countries. my opinion is... you will never beat a man who is prepared to die. also iran will fight to the very last man. would america do this??? NO america are in the **** with iraq and what are iraq compared to iran. NOTHING!!!! america know deep down they can not win this war but for some reason you lot dont ... america would without a doubt do more damage to the country than iran could do to america but thetas not how you win a war. i could carry on this subject for hours and hours but im going to have to love and leave you all... think about what i said and try to understand what ive said... you will be fighting a pointless and never ending war!!! p.s - look forward to your replies!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 i could carry on this subject for hours and hours but im going to have to love and leave you all... think about what i said and try to understand what ive said... you will be fighting a pointless and never ending war!!! i think your a ******* nutter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahin Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 THANKYOU FOR THE COMPLIMENT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 in Iran they will be laughing on the other side of there faces if any of them men get hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahin Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 LETS WAIT AND SEE SHALL WE. YOU SAW MY PREDICTION! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P03 Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 The men being held are British NOT American so your (frankly bordering on the fanatical) anti-american rant is somewhat misplaced. The British citizens being held have admitted to being in Iranian territorial waters...... according to the Iranians!. I agree with you that they will be released but was there really any need to arrest them at all? PS There's no need to shout discussion is better conducted at room volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Not wanting a war? You claim this AFTER your countries great leader spat his hatred at the Jewish community by saying he will WIPE ISRAEL from the face of the earth??? Wind up? Fighting talk more like!! LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahin Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 it doesnt matter if the men are from figi, the point is they were in the wrong place and got pinched. the america rant came when other members mentioned the nuclear subject Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P03 Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 But would it not have been better, on moral grounds, to have just escorted them back to where they should have been? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 it doesnt matter if the men are from figi, it would not of matterd if they had been women and kids. the cowardly ******** will still have taken them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahin Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 exactly why should it matter. they have admitted to being there illegally- they will not be harmed, purely questioned and then returned what do you think would happen if it was the other way around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 what do you think would happen if it was the other way around? we would end up housing them all and there elders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P03 Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 They wouldn't be intentionally paraded around in front of the media and shown on international television! and the thing about two of them being taken out of the room and gunshots fired to make the rest think they'd been shot wouldn't even be alleged in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naddan28 Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 The view as to why the west believe only they should be allowed nuclear weapons is based upon the fact that they have proper democratic systems and the release codes for the nukes (well at least in our case) is held by the UN. Some of these countries are not stable enough or trustworthy enough to be supplied with Nuclear Weapons. Similar to the reason why you cant just walk into a shop and buy a .308 rifle or would you allow Robert Mugabe to have some shiny nukes? As to providing nuclear power purely on a peaceful basis, hmm it does beg the question what is wrong with all the other sources of ectricity? Oil, Coal, Solar, Wind etc afterall nuclear power is incredibly expensive to set up and mantain esp disposing with the waste so would that be the most practical solution for a country like Iran? Or is there another reason nuclear power is so appealing? The reason America is still building nukes is partly answered in your own response,"It really does show something when most asian countries burn american flags but only a few countries dislike iran. " the idea of holding nukes is its a detorant. With so many countries hating them they do kind of seem justified. As every Iranian on the planet shooting american's on site, even in america and some kind of global war breaking out I very much doubt it. Firstly, all Iranians would end up being deported or victims of hate crime as for example a few hundred or even thousand Iranian's in america really would not wipe out the entire population before they met a deporting/murderous end. You do contradict yourself about them admitting to being in "iranian waters" and "don't believe everything you watch on tv" As Iran have made that statement and you or I have no clue to how true that is, or if it is true the conditions it was obtained under. Who are Iraq, nothing. Well the Iran-Iraq war proved against the Iranians they were more than nothing. That war was started by Iran enroaching on Iraqi terroitory and demanding the overthrow of sadam. That sounds awfully like Bully tactics to me and something that america later did and now the whole of Iran protests. No offence meant to you by this post its just in some cases people shouldn't throw stones in glass houses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahin Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 As i am half iranian and live in england i am open minded and can see both arguments. If your going to speak like that you should 1) really watch who you speak to 2) not believe everything you read in the papers and see on t.v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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