leadbreakfast Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Well after posting about playing with my hammer gun I realised I need something in need of tlc. So here it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadbreakfast Posted May 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Got it for a drink so was the perfect price. Thinking of finding more info of the gun first so if somebody knows anything about these Adkins that would be good. I know it's 1800s but not sure of the date is there anybody on here who could date it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Post a photo of the proof marks and we can narrow it down for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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panoma1 Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Henry Adkin was in Bedford and Peterborough in the late 19th to mid 20th century, there was also a William Adkin(s) in Suffolk late 19h century, the gun was proofed at 13/1 in Birmingham under the 1925 rules of proof. Got a picture of the toplever? It could possibly be out of the Westley Richards factory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadbreakfast Posted May 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 (edited) Edited May 9, 2015 by leadbreakfast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadbreakfast Posted May 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Henry Adkin was in Bedford and Peterborough in the late 19th to mid 20th century, there was also a William Adkin(s) in Suffolk late 19h century, the gun was proofed at 13/1 in Birmingham under the 1925 rules of proof. Got a picture of the toplever? It could possibly be out of the Westley Richards factory? So does that mean it was nitro proofed in 1925 and made as a black powder before or made in 1925?Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 As I thought that's a Westley Richards top lever and dolls head extention, on an Anson and Deeley patent Action, I believe the gun would have come out of the WR Factory in Grange Road, Bournbrook, Birmingham, there are no Black Powder Proof marks on the gun, so it was never BP proved! all the marks are Nitro Proof marks, which would indicate it was made by WR and retailed by Adkins under their name sometime after 1925. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadbreakfast Posted May 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 (edited) Newer than I thought then cheers for that. Let the work commence. Edited May 9, 2015 by leadbreakfast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadbreakfast Posted May 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Just noticed it does say H adkin high street Bedford on the rib so you was right about that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 A gun worthy of proper restoration, very pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadbreakfast Posted May 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 A gun worthy of proper restoration, very pretty. I'm thinking of taking on a full job but don't want to spend to much on it but it's a start for me to practice on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Just replied to your damascus rebrowning post btw. On the face of it that guns just another boxlock non ejector, but its reasonably nice and will make a really fine gun if cosmetically restored and i really like nice BLNE's. The action needs no work its fine as it is, the barrels might need a re brown and on such a gun i would be tempted to cough up and have it done, it would make such a pretty game gun, and the stock could probably do with being traditionally oil finished you could do this yourself or have it done.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Panoma has hit the nail on the head nice Westley made gun. Personally I'd leave the action, re brown the barrels not really a diy job IMHO and traditional oil finish the wood work this can be diy if your that way minded but please avoid TruOil and other varnish based finishs it deserves better in iMHO If I can offer any help or advice pleas just ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanWalker Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 I think you were right in your original assessment. I would guess (without any specific knowledge of H Adkin as maker or retailer) that your gun originally dated to the early 1880s. It is built to pretty much the original A&D patent specification (Westley Richards toplever and bolted dolls head, single lump, no underbite, broad cocking levers etc - plus it carries a patent use number which dates it to before the original A&D patent lapsed). I cant imagine that, once the Purdey double underbolt patent lapsed, many guns were built with single lumps and no underbolt. My guess is that it was either rebarrelled or reproofed in the 20s after a hard working life. I am, of course, open to correction. Still lots to learn about these excellent old guns. Congratulations on a great find, she is a beaut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadbreakfast Posted May 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 (edited) Having ago at making a stock, I'm not a joiner so it's becoming a challange. This is it so far Edited May 15, 2015 by leadbreakfast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Why the restock? Best of luck with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadbreakfast Posted May 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 The stock is **** so giving it ago at making one. If it turns out ok I can pick some old English guns up for nothing that need stocking. Well we will see how it turns out first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadbreakfast Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 A bit of progress, still need to drop the action in and back bit getting there slowly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadbreakfast Posted May 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Got the action in now for the triggers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadbreakfast Posted June 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Bit more progress, not sure what oil to use any recommendations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Was the stock cracked or in such a poor state that it required replacing, only you will lose the patina of years of use which can be half the joy of owning/using an old gun ? Further to my earlier post, I must admit that you are making an excellent job of the new stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Instead of plain flat sides, drop points would be good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadbreakfast Posted June 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Yep the old stock has had it, been glued broke and neglected. Think I prefure plain sides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Look forward to seeing further progress in due course. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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