Beretta28g Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 If I didn't home load I couldn't shoot A bullet for me works out at Brass £1.60 if I get 3 firings I'm lucky Powder 1 £0.11 Primer 1 £0.03 Primer 2 £0.05 Powder 2 £0.50 Bullet £1.10 Total £3.28 and that's a conservative estimate not including propane £1.10 per bullet?! Thats a big bullet then!? .50? I have over 10 firings from Norma brass in most calibre/cartridges You start with a .375 H & H case and anneal it. Then you run it through two sets of dies to take it down to .300 H & H then to .244 H & H. Then you load a standard primer with 20 grains of red dot and a square of bog paper. Load this in the rifle and fire it. Tumble the cases, and then re anneal, then full length resize to .244 H & H. It's common to loose 20% of cases by this point to splits in the neck, however the second annealing is starting to help prevent this. Then it's a magnum primer, 78 grains of H50BMG and a 85 grain Barnes TSX and you are good to go. ( 50 Barnes cost me £31). It's rare to get that many firings from the brass on verge three. If you use Norma brass it's especially bad, with more splitting on fireforming, and not lasting as long, Winchester was the best but I can't find new Winchester 375 cases at present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 You start with a .375 H & H case and anneal it. Then you run it through two sets of dies to take it down to .300 H & H then to .244 H & H. Then you load a standard primer with 20 grains of red dot and a square of bog paper. Load this in the rifle and fire it. Tumble the cases, and then re anneal, then full length resize to .244 H & H. It's common to loose 20% of cases by this point to splits in the neck, however the second annealing is starting to help prevent this. Then it's a magnum primer, 78 grains of H50BMG and a 85 grain Barnes TSX and you are good to go. ( 50 Barnes cost me £31). It's rare to get that many firings from the brass on verge three. If you use Norma brass it's especially bad, with more splitting on fireforming, and not lasting as long, Winchester was the best but I can't find new Winchester 375 cases at present. ah, nice could you not start with 300 brass? friend of mine has just built one and bought a load of brass even starting with 300WinMag brass would probably be cheaper wouldnt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 You sir have a pm, you could be the answer I need. Starting with .300 brass can be done but the brass tends to be thicker and splits more easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Pm'd you back I load for 300wm and the Norma and winchester brass is fairly thin at the neck, granted some of the other brands are thick I can see its just more common and usually cheaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 ah, nice could you not start with 300 brass? friend of mine has just built one and bought a load of brass even starting with 300WinMag brass would probably be cheaper wouldnt it? You can't use .300 win mag brass, as the brass is too short to make it into .244 brass it's at least 0.12" too short, also the shoulder angle is way wrong and far too far down the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valley boy Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 just buy ppu`s there only £13 odd a box, iv`e used them for over a year and there`s nothing wrong with them shooting foxes 200 yards plus regular, tried geco and federal did`nt see any difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 just buy ppu`s there only £13 odd a box, iv`e used them for over a year and there`s nothing wrong with them shooting foxes 200 yards plus regular, tried geco and federal did`nt see any difference They shoot alright but if I can shoot better, for cheaper, with a little effort and the low cost of a lee classic loader, then why not ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 just buy ppu`s there only £13 odd a box, iv`e used them for over a year and there`s nothing wrong with them shooting foxes 200 yards plus regular, tried geco and federal did`nt see any difference The problems happen if your rifle doesn't like PPU : my .223 groups about 4" at 100 metres on PPU, whether 55grain or the 69 grain 'Match' Conversely, if I re-use the PPU brass, put in a Federal Champion primer, 25.0 grains of H4895, and seat a 52 grain A-max (or a 53 grain Hornady Match bullet) on it, then it'll group 1" - quite possibly even tighter than that, I'm pretty sure the biggest weak point is the operator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickthomas Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 CRAZY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 I started reloading pistol ammunition back in the 1980's, as it was a hell of a lot cheaper than buying factory produced ammo'. For example, reloading .38 special, and using home cast bullets. and shotgun powder,(Nobel 80) it worked out the same price to shoot 100 rounds of .38 as 120 rounds of .22LR. I enjoy reloading, and I agree that some ammunition - PRVI Partizan for example - is very cheap. christ on a stick................im staggered at the today reloading cost.....back until the "ban" i reloaded all my pistol ammo...38....357...32.....9mm......(cept for my p08...used aluminium IMI)............used to put at least 500 rounds downrange every week................but looking at the cost now.....wow !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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