Gordon R Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Looking good. Glad about the Ridgid wrench - not losing my touch. They are expensive, because they are the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redleg in kale Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 when we were fitting both new track rod ends onto steering tube we always fitted right hand thread to rhs of veichle and vice versa for left so if one went and we knew the vehicle we knew which hand it was handy if your keeping the vehicle also drilled and tapped the flat top of the track rod end to fit grease nipple, surprising how little grease the non greasing track rod end has ,when all fitted and tracked up and clamped grease the end of tubes and slots to stop water ingress, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) There you go mate I have had my series many years, it has never had a steering damper on, i just dont wrap my thumbs around steering wheel if i am on rough ground. Edited January 25, 2016 by la bala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 when we were fitting both new track rod ends onto steering tube we always fitted right hand thread to rhs of veichle and vice versa for left so if one went and we knew the vehicle we knew which hand it was handy if your keeping the vehicle also drilled and tapped the flat top of the track rod end to fit grease nipple, surprising how little grease the non greasing track rod end has ,when all fitted and tracked up and clamped grease the end of tubes and slots to stop water ingress, cheers mate i will bare that in mind when i start again There you go mate defiantly didnt have one of them on, and im pretty sure it wont be getting one Looking good. Glad about the Ridgid wrench - not losing my touch. They are expensive, because they are the best. you tool hore you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 just been into the garage and took it all apart and taken track rod ends off, wouldn't be able to sleep if i hadn't, going to order a new set of tubes, it would of been to hard to fit and adjust as they were, and if im being honest i wasn't happy putting them on as they were as they wernt as good as they should of been. is there a proper way of fitting them to make sure everything is straight and the wheels run correctly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) wonder where i get my love of land rovers from, the view from my bedroom window, 1970 2 door classic ranger rover being done up to the highest standard possible an a 1950 series 1, Edited January 25, 2016 by viking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) just been into the garage and took it all apart and taken track rod ends off, wouldn't be able to sleep if i hadn't, going to order a new set of tubes, it would of been to hard to fit and adjust as they were, and if im being honest i wasn't happy putting them on as they were as they wernt as good as they should of been. is there a proper way of fitting them to make sure everything is straight and the wheels run correctly? i think BALA is right.........that model of l/r didnt have a steering damper....as you got the l/r from "overseas" they might have been mending it with old scrap stuff...hence the mismatched part...i think you are doing right in getting a new set,,,,,,as regards to settings ....for a good guide somewhere they have written down what length the rods should be....do that and that will be enough to to see you right before you get the tracking done for the MOT when you get the new set...copper slip...put clamps on.....screw joints in 2 turns each one.....fit to vehicle......then turn the rod by hand until the wheels look straight...........then measure...(there are measurments somewhere)....and clamp off and leave till the tracking needs to be done for the test........ Edited January 26, 2016 by ditchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redleg in kale Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 just been into the garage and took it all apart and taken track rod ends off, wouldn't be able to sleep if i hadn't, going to order a new set of tubes, it would of been to hard to fit and adjust as they were, and if im being honest i wasn't happy putting them on as they were as they wernt as good as they should of been. is there a proper way of fitting them to make sure everything is straight and the wheels run correctly? iam sure your tubes would be alright apart from marks of the vice ,you said you struggled to fit the new track rod ends onto both tubes very common, I used to use the old track rod end and cut along the length of the thread both sides with a hacksaw to act has a thread cutter using plenty of wd or plus gas screwing the track rod end a few turns in a few turns out to clean the inner thread of the tube which gets full of crud a bit time consuming but easy doable when done track rod ends should go in by hand ,fit back on vehicle leaving clamps loose tighten tack rod end bolt to torque setting ,as a rough guide to tracking measure inner side of wheel lhs rim edge to rhs wheel rim edge half way up front edge first then repeat same at rear edge of rim any difference in measurement is taken up by turning the track rod tube then clamp up ,as I said rough guide but good enough to get you to a tracking machine , by the way I found in my garage a never used engine shut off cable and handle if its any use to you F O C you can have it, these posts are taking me back years when I was well into landrovers enjoyable reading . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 i think BALA is right.........that model of l/r didnt have a steering damper....as you got the l/r from "overseas" they might have been mending it with old scrap stuff...hence the mismatched part...i think you are doing right in getting a new set,,,,,,as regards to settings ....for a good guide somewhere they have written down what length the rods should be....do that and that will be enough to to see you right before you get the tracking done for the MOT when you get the new set...copper slip...put clamps on.....screw joints in 2 turns each one.....fit to vehicle......then turn the rod by hand until the wheels look straight...........then measure...(there are measurments somewhere)....and clamp off and leave till the tracking needs to be done for the test........ im sure i will sus it out when new parts get here, ordered today £70, it wont beat me iam sure your tubes would be alright apart from marks of the vice ,you said you struggled to fit the new track rod ends onto both tubes very common, I used to use the old track rod end and cut along the length of the thread both sides with a hacksaw to act has a thread cutter using plenty of wd or plus gas screwing the track rod end a few turns in a few turns out to clean the inner thread of the tube which gets full of crud a bit time consuming but easy doable when done track rod ends should go in by hand ,fit back on vehicle leaving clamps loose tighten tack rod end bolt to torque setting ,as a rough guide to tracking measure inner side of wheel lhs rim edge to rhs wheel rim edge half way up front edge first then repeat same at rear edge of rim any difference in measurement is taken up by turning the track rod tube then clamp up ,as I said rough guide but good enough to get you to a tracking machine , by the way I found in my garage a never used engine shut off cable and handle if its any use to you F O C you can have it, these posts are taking me back years when I was well into landrovers enjoyable reading . cheers mate thats very kind off you, i think it had one because when the bloke who picked it up for me told me about it and i remember thinking why not just turn it off with the key, i will pm you my address, i have no idea how much they are but i will make a £10 donation to the next cancer research box i see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) bulk head welds have been grinned off and along with the radiator panel has been taken to the paint shop Edited January 26, 2016 by viking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) engine soaked in diesel ready for blasting tomorrow, cant wait to start cleaning it Edited January 26, 2016 by viking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 its not much but its another part on with shiny nuts and bolts . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 anyone any idea what my engine would weigh, thinking of getting an engine stand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 are you striping the engine down...new rings shells etc ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 my mates doing that, should be starting this weekend if hes time, iv told him to strip it down and do what needs doing. but for cleaning i was going to put it on a stand as is, as a lad at work has on that takes weight of 450kg, going back to my gym days i work that out at around 67 stone.or around 1000lb. about what i used to bench press Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Basic engine about 220 kilos Viking. Made a swivel stand for a VW Beetle today but they a lot lighter than yours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Basic engine about 220 kilos Viking. Made a swivel stand for a VW Beetle today but they a lot lighter than yours quality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 iv decided to buy a torque wrench, now i dont want the best nor do i want a rubbish one,so any recommendations please, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 iv decided to buy a torque wrench, now i dont want the best nor do i want a rubbish one,so any recommendations please, Dont get it from the same place as the vice bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 and what torque range will i need for my land rover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Dont get it from the same place as the vice bud i think a few people are not realising that the vice was a bit of a joke, it was a baby vice that for some reason id had in a draw for year, not even sure where i got it from, i wasnt expecting much from it other than to make some one laugh at it ps, thats not a giant lighter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 and what torque range will i need for my land rover Off the top of my head the 2.25 diesel head is around 90 ftlb, but with all torques i have too consult the book. I have had a draper around 30 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 if i buy a draper i will get told off from Gordon i was just looking at a draper one on ebay, it wont get a great deal of use, think i saw one at 8-60Nm and one at 60-300Nm and thats not something i understand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 if i buy a draper i will get told off from Gordon i was just looking at a draper one on ebay, it wont get a great deal of use, think i saw one at 8-60Nm and one at 60-300Nm and thats not something i understand 90 ft lbs is 122nm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 so what do you think the lowest setting i need will be, dont want to be buying 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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