Teal Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 I remember reading a few days ago about someone who was recommending a 60 pound rotor he picked up at a gamefair, but now I can't for the life of me find it, if the person who bought it could send me a pm i'd greatly appreciate it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Did it cost "60 pounds", or weigh "60 pounds" ? If it was either, I,m not sure I would be interested in it. Ones too cheap and the others too heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted February 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Thats true cranfield but being a student i don't have much choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Being a typical student, you didn,t answer the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 William, Laz is about to tell you something very much to your advantage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted February 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Probably both cranfield Deako; ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rjimmer Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 The cheapest ones I saw at the Game Fair were £65.00. They were doing a hell of a trade. I still think Deako's look the tidyest! They look a bit like this one from ukshootwarehouse, but without the shine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbus Polumbus Posted February 2, 2004 Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 I got one of those £65 ones and there the dogs balls, heavier than some but mine has never let me down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon_decoyer Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 I made a pigeon magnet the other day and it only costs around about £7 to make i havn't had a chance to try it out yet as i went out today but was far to windy and kept blowing it over!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Beasley Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 The cheapest ones I saw at the Game Fair were £65.00.They were doing a hell of a trade. I still think Deako's look the tidyest! They look a bit like this one from ukshootwarehouse, but without the shine. Yeah the guy at the game fair did a roaring trade...very smart move. The machines were total ****e mind you but you gets what you pays for. Our ultra-lightweight machines are anodised in green and although they look superb, they will shine on bright days and its something we've considered a lot. We supply most of the gunshops in the central England now and the anodised finish is what they asked for so thats the way we sell it!! The best thing to do is apply a liberal handfull of mud over the arms and body to eliminate any shine, or use that camo tape that you can buy. On an overcast day you'll find that there's no shine from either the arms or machine body. There's 2 new versions of the ultralightweight coming out before the game fair which will feature a total matt finish. Ok thats the end of my shameless self-promotion/pimping. I can probably expect a now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 Will, Fair comment, but even you must surely admit that the original "Pigeon Magnet" was grossly overpriced, and therefore little wonder that anybody with a welding torch and access to a local scrap car dealer was soon going to make a fortune flooding the market with lookalikes at half the price that the Beasley clan were hawking them for... perhaps if you were more realistic about the mark up in the beginning.... Also, if they're close enough to see the shine, surely they're close enough to shoot...?<_<? Give my regards to your dad, Double H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Beasley Posted February 6, 2004 Report Share Posted February 6, 2004 Double H: The shine on the *non-moving* part of any machine isn't quite so important, but even though the arms on all of our machines and a lot of other machines are powder coated in green the finish is "satin" and not completely matt. The end result is that on really sunny days the arms generate a reflective flash as they spin which puts the birds OFF....from a bloody long way. This factor is the single most common reason why people cant figure out why their magnet works on some days and not others. The majority of the time if people took precautions to stop the flash given off when the arms rotate their rotor will mysteriously start to work again. Deako's magnet that he sells (which is actually manufactured & designed by a guy called Chris Witherington from the Luton area) is fully flock coated and as such is the best idea to stop the machine giving off any shine *when rotating*. The only downside to that is that you've got to take care of it otherwise the flocking ends up looking like a mangey fox in no time. Of course on any other day when the sun's not shining it doesn't matter a toss wether its flocked or not. A shine is visible from a LONG way and pigeons will associate the shine with humans and avoid at all costs, thats the whole point in having all these flocked decoys innit. You'll find that pigeons can flare away from a rotor who's arms are glinting in the sun sometimes 2-300 yards away, especially if they've seen a lot of rotors....they don't like it at all. Anyway that was the point that rjimmer was making. As to the comments regarding magnet pricing.....I'm not going to be drawn into that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted February 6, 2004 Report Share Posted February 6, 2004 My only concern about the lightweight rotors, as pictured above, is the sturdiness of the barings that take the weigh of all the moving parts. With the types that use a windscreen motor or similar, the motor barings do not have to take any thrust from the weight of the rotating assembly. This weight can be taken by an appropriately designed baring. Normal motor barings are not, perhaps, designed to take enough end thrust. I would like to be reassured. Someone was on about Landrover Matt paint available from Halfords. That might be the answer to shine problem. My old favourite, Abbey Metal Protector, might also do the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Beasley Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 My only concern about the lightweight rotors, as pictured above, is the sturdiness of the barings that take the weigh of all the moving parts.With the types that use a windscreen motor or similar, the motor barings do not have to take any thrust from the weight of the rotating assembly. This weight can be taken by an appropriately designed baring. Normal motor barings are not, perhaps, designed to take enough end thrust. I would like to be reassured. Someone was on about Landrover Matt paint available from Halfords. That might be the answer to shine problem. My old favourite, Abbey Metal Protector, might also do the job. Jim. Ours uses an "oil-lite" bushing on the motor ourput shaft. Youre right in saying that if there was no support then the bearing in the motor would wear incredibly quickly. The oil-lite bushing is a self lubricating brass bushing and can be seen in this pic ( see the top row, second from the left) We also use a PTFE ring ( thats the white ring you can see in the picture ) which is frictionless and acts as further support to take any vertical loading away from the motor. Our motor use a special "planetary" gearing from Japan which is stronger than most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobthenailer22 Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 hello all, try painting the whole thing with "I R" olive green and black paint. It doesn't shine even when wet (any oil spilled on it will make it shine). If you know anyone in the forces they can easy get you a drop or you can buy it from goverment sale houses some army and navy stores etc. It comes in 5 litre cans so it will proberly be better for a few shooters to get together and share a can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F150 Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 I use a small tin of Humbrol enamel matt black spray paint to cover the whole of my unit and touch up it when needed. In the field it blends in perfectly - come drilling or laid barley, with no shine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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