TONY R Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Vitavouri N350 and 3N38 do a similar job to A Steel but not directly comparable. I have been using 3N38 a fair bit lately and its ok. A Steel is a good all rounder and ANY ONE powder will strugle to beat it, and when you look at the amount of data out there for A steel it wins hands down as a non tox powder, and that even when you take in to account the lot to lot variations that it has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 When Alliant Steel is not available I have used Blue Dot and a few months ago I got a tub of Hodgdons Longshot but not used it yet, I have enough Steel for this season. Loading data for Blue Dot and Longshot is available on line at the Ballistic Products website only problem can be some of the components are hard to get over here but they can be found if you search or if a couple of folk get together and bring in what they need from US, a bit expensive but do'able. Hope this helps. Longshot seems to be really versatile powder and the Hodgdon website has plenty of recipes including many for Cheddite cases and primers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatsanmad Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) Longshot seems to be really versatile powder and the Hodgdon website has plenty of recipes including many for Cheddite cases and primers, Yes it is versatile but if your loading steel shot dont rely on there site. I am using longshot at the moment in my loads and its not bad. It does generate high pressures but the speeds in some of the loads for it are really impressive.I have only loaded a few and patternd them and im impressed with them so far. My next outing im taking the chrono to check them. If you load with longshot i would reccomend using the data in the status of steel book. Theres some really impressive data for it in there for 3&1/2 inch hulls just waiting on my new wads to try them out. Edited December 3, 2015 by hatsanmad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatsanmad Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Found this data for a 3&1/2in fedral pb hull and longshot. Fed pb hull Fed 209a primer 37 grain of longshot Mm1235 wad 1&1/2 oz of steel BB Producing 13400 psi And 1525 fps I havent tried this load yet as im just waiting on my wads but if its anything like the 3 inch data it should be good. The 3in i have patternd is Ched hull Cx2000 primer 24 grain of longshot Mm1230 Ty58 card over shot i just used my homemade ones which worked just fine. 1&1/4 oz of steel shot Producing 11000psi And 1250fps Not very fast but patterns well for my gun with ones and 2s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK fowler Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Load# 90109-326 HULL: FEDERAL 12-gauge 3.50” (#0621235) PRIMER: FED239 PROPELLANT: HODGDON LONGSHOT 37. 0 Grains WAD: FS12 gas seal (#072FS12)+MM1230 (#3221230 ) Mica dust wad please. SHOT: 1-1/4 ounce STEEL shot (546 grains). BUFFER: None FOLD CRIMP: 6-point (Always recommended for new hulls). Results: 13400 PSI 1550 FPS Already a CURMUDGEON favorite! the 11/2oz load is a miss print do not load this! this is a 11/4oz load and is hot at that shot weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK fowler Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 always double check reloads with longshot powder very few loads work well with it if you are not sure post up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 always double check reloads with longshot powder very few loads work well with it if you are not sure post up Agree. And some of the BP Loads are a little suspect, and not just with Longshot. https://www.ballisticproducts.com/loadoftheweekarchive.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted December 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 No 10g recipes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatFreddysCat Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Alliant A381 is close to Steel. Clay and Game do an A381/Steel comparison data sheet. Sheet No. 1006, costs £1 and they e mail it to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 always double check reloads with longshot powder very few loads work well with it if you are not sure post up Does your comment apply to all longshot recipes ? I use Lead and Bismuth recipes from the hodgdon website and they seem ok, not so sure now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farma Geddon Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Does your comment apply to all longshot recipes ? I use Lead and Bismuth recipes from the hodgdon website and they seem ok, not so sure now I don't use Longshot , because I think it is dodgy with steel shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbyduck Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 No 10g recipes? scoll down to dates 10.9.09. and 10.16.09. good loads , longshot and bluedot . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAB1954 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Can't see an American company publishing dodgy data with the culture over there to sue/claim for anything/everything. Not tried Longshot with steel load yet so no further comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK fowler Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Does your comment apply to all longshot recipes ? I use Lead and Bismuth recipes from the hodgdon website and they seem ok, not so sure now just steel loads /bpi data can be a bit off like the misprint above .I use it a lot with light steel loads so I can spot a lemon strait away . if you ring /email hodgdon they will tell you steel shot and longshot don't go well together that's why there is non on there website but there data for lead and bismuth is good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.