naddan28 Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Just a debate between me and another member (beatiingisbest). I reckon as the barrel length increases then the pattern density would also increase with the additional barrel functioning somewhat similar to a choke. Beating disagrees reckons its down to swing (think he is taking salsa lessons on the sly ), so what does everyone else think?? Would 24, 26, 28 and 30" versions of the same gun without chokes all pattern the same??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Apart from generally weighing more, as the barrel gets longer, the only other thing a longer barrel can be said to do is get you a couple of inches closer to the clay / bird. Since the constriction doesn't come until the choke I wouldn't say the extra length worked like a choke, more like a longer barrel I don't think swing has anything to do with density of the pattern either. That's all down to the maker, the forcing cones, the coating on the inside of the barrel, manufacturing technique, tolerances, shot, powder, wad type and ultimately the choke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 What's swing got to do with it, are we talking golf here..?? As Pin says, it's all down to the amount of choke you have in the barrel, the length of that barrel doesn't matter. Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naddan28 Posted April 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 What's swing got to do with it, are we talking golf here..?? As Pin says, it's all down to the amount of choke you have in the barrel, the length of that barrel doesn't matter. Cat. Not sure about the swing thing! I just assumed having a slightly longer barrel would prevent the shot spreading ealier, therefor increasing pattern density! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodmedod.one Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Would 24, 26, 28 and 30" versions of the same gun without chokes all pattern the same??? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusk2dawn Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 What's swing got to do with it, are we talking golf here..?? As Pin says, it's all down to the amount of choke you have in the barrel, the length of that barrel doesn't matter. Cat. Not sure about the swing thing! I just assumed having a slightly longer barrel would prevent the shot spreading ealier, therefor increasing pattern density! Ask Al Capone about pattern density and short barrels, he had the answers D2D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_HMR Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 over boring and longer cones thats what will give you a dense patter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Choke will give you more dense patterns. Longer barrels may help you steady the gun for longer slower targets, or help with second target acquisition, but it's all down to your build/strength etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naddan28 Posted April 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 thanks guys, I just assumed lengthier barrels would result in better pattern density. Appears beating was right (apart from the swing bit )! Sorry to doubt you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 thanks guys, I just assumed lengthier barrels would result in better pattern density. Appears beating was right (apart from the swing bit )! Sorry to doubt you :blink: I always heard that longer barrels make it easier to have a steadier swing though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naddan28 Posted April 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 thanks guys, I just assumed lengthier barrels would result in better pattern density. Appears beating was right (apart from the swing bit )! Sorry to doubt you :blink: I always heard that longer barrels make it easier to have a steadier swing though well why didn't u say that and not just swing thought you had been having salsa lessons to impress those girls at college when you start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 thanks guys, I just assumed lengthier barrels would result in better pattern density. Appears beating was right (apart from the swing bit )! Sorry to doubt you I always heard that longer barrels make it easier to have a steadier swing though well why didn't u say that and not just swing thought you had been having salsa lessons to impress those girls at college when you start :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellier0437 Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 i have to say that i think that barrel length does make a difference. on my berretta A303 i have two different barrels and multi chokes. i find that with identical chokes, i will do more damage to a stationary target such as a sitting rabbit with the longer barrel. i don't know why this is, i will shoot at some pieces of paper at the weekend and do a pellet count inside a circle to get you an answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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