Wingman Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Ok, so I ended up buying a cheap GMK Silver Kestrel sidelock for not much money. It was in better nick than I first thought and had a close inspection before parting with my hard earned dosh and apart from the usual cosmetic wear and tear its a good'un! I want to refinish the stock as its pretty tatty, but looks nicely figured under the shiny varnish thats on it currently. I have tried to look but cant seem to find a step by step process on removing the stock on a sidelock SxS. I am sure its probably a tad harder than my old spanish boxlock so would really appreciate some guidance from anyone that's done it before! Got the right screwdrivers so should be ok but just worried about springs and things flying about if I get it wrong! Cheers!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Easier to strip than a boxlock so don't be afraid-Zabala built these I seem to recall so quality should be OK ish and hopefully better than the boxlock version. Nothing should fall out when you remove the locks so no worries there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPhantom Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Easier to strip than a boxlock so don't be afraid-Zabala built these I seem to recall so quality should be OK ish and hopefully better than the boxlock version. Nothing should fall out when you remove the locks so no worries there. +1 I found the process very similar to my boxlock when I did mine. Just need to take the locks off first before attempting to remove any of the screws. If the locks are hand detachable there will be a small handle on the left hand side of the action keeping the locks in place. Don't worry, there are no loose springs inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted February 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 So once the locks are off is the process the same as an Anson Deeley type BoxLock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPhantom Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 So once the locks are off is the process the same as an Anson Deeley type BoxLock? As far as removing the stock screws, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 nolthing will fall out un less its broke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted February 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 OK thanks all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Am I the only one imagining Wingman rolling around on the carpet with a leaf spring embedded in his forehead whilst his better half cancels his "Tiffins" night thanks to the gouge in the table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted February 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Am I the only one imagining Wingman rolling around on the carpet with a leaf spring embedded in his forehead whilst his better half cancels his "Tiffins" night thanks to the gouge in the table Have to say given my previous attempts at "fixing" stuff she may well do that!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Shouldn't be a problem so long as he don't go pulling the locks apart. A hand bundle of cloths to hand is advised to catch any bits that may fall out or Spring off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted February 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Thanks Figgy point taken will be cautious when I take it apart. Fancy doing the stock although its not horrible just got lots of dings and scratches from it 36 year life (gun was made in 1980), may shoot it a bit first. Will post some pics up when its done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Might sound obvious but make sure you push the relevant trigger forwards as you replace each lock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted February 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Might sound obvious but make sure you push the relevant trigger forwards as you replace each lock. Sorry not obvious to me, can you explain what you mean a bit further? Also reading on some of the US websites they say that the gun should be cocked before dissasembly, is that also valid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDS Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) The gun should be cocked before removing sideplates as tumblers ? can catch on the wood if not https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=parts+of+sidelock+shotgun&biw=1424&bih=767&tbm=isch&imgil=8ZKUCtqJfNfCxM%253A%253BGxtxNwdyKHVEKM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.boxallandedmiston.co.uk%25252Fshotgun-anatomy%25252Fthe-difference-between-a-boxlock-and-a-sidekick&source=iu&pf=m&fir=8ZKUCtqJfNfCxM%253A%252CGxtxNwdyKHVEKM%252C_&usg=__LSEfGzTTIuGQLOXF7zpiek0ysLs%3D&ved=0ahUKEwiQh9eHjNnKAhWLnBoKHe4dCT0QyjcIMw&ei=2qKwVpCyK4u5au67pOgD#imgrc=8ZKUCtqJfNfCxM%3A&usg=__LSEfGzTTIuGQLOXF7zpiek0ysLs%3D Edited February 2, 2016 by TDS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 If you watch the purdy factory video you can see the action we use a cocking tool on the licks to cock them then trip them. You could easily makes tool with a couple of bolts and a strip of metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 No worries-the triggers are not spring loaded and flop around inside the stock-if you push the locks back into the recess in the wood without pushing/holding them forwards the sear may well press against the trigger(s) and prevent the locks seating-its easy to think that just a tap will do the job but not if the sear is up against the trigger-sounds more complicated than it is and all will become clear when you put her back together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted February 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 No worries-the triggers are not spring loaded and flop around inside the stock-if you push the locks back into the recess in the wood without pushing/holding them forwards the sear may well press against the trigger(s) and prevent the locks seating-its easy to think that just a tap will do the job but not if the sear is up against the trigger-sounds more complicated than it is and all will become clear when you put her back together. When you say forward do you mean towards the muzzle? Sorry if this is a stupid question!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Yes-towards the muzzle end-the triggers hinge on the trigger plate and move upwards to trip the sear-the sear thus sits on top of the rear of the trigger-you just need to make sure that the triggers are pushed forwards to make sure the sear can go over the top when fitting the locks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted February 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Got it thanks for explaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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