farmboy807 Posted March 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Ok thanks Tony any idea of where to get them from online gunshops etc thanks as been looking on google but no luck or are they from America Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) SRM in the states but they dont have them for berettas at the moment i was told the other day, so its second hand a wanted on here, or Shotgun world DHC etc. Cry at laurie rule here she may dig you one up they must have some kicking about some where. http://www.wadwizard.com/terror.htm Muller H2os the UFO are an order job from just choking the european distributors for jimmy mullers tubes. http://mullerchokes.eu/ Edited March 10, 2016 by TONY R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmboy807 Posted March 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Hi Tony just looked on wad wizard They do A 12g 675 beneilli/ beretta mobile choke So I take it thts the one $95 plus p&p not sure how much tht is So you reckon tht one do you Ow just one thing my al391 isn't steel proof will tht be fine still with this choke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) Some would say no if it's not steel proofed but there is no proofing in America and they've been chucking loads of steel through them for years. I take it your gun is Mobil choked? Good advice per getting a cheap ten bore, if you want to shoot high far birds you can hand reload for the ten. Edited March 10, 2016 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Your gun will be 1200kgs its not fleur de leys steel proof but its fine to normal steel and all berettas from 1961 are hard chrome barrels its fine. get the .675 terror if yours is mobil choke, be sure it is though the extremas are optima or optima pluss something like that, im a Browning man not had a semi auto beretta since my drop in mobil choked 301 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Thanks Kent amazing the different views people have You say let them come in well where I shot is more of a flight line A mile stretch of grass with river one side and loads of lake the other so most of the time they are coming in high and going in so havnt got a choice about tht I have been using the caller and decoy on then grass and few ducks have circled same with the geese but most are just flying over Let them come in is just a wildfowling saying Popping st a high skein will not help the next to come in lower On evening return the best bits tend to fill first and later commercial do tend to come lower progressively. Confidence and where they plan on landing plays a part But not if you have sky busters popping away it will tend to push geese up and also get them further out to roost BTW I not recommending you shoot on or too close to the roost at all - this practice is very bad news and banned by most clubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Your gun will be 1200kgs its not fleur de leys steel proof but its fine to normal steel and all berettas from 1961 are hard chrome barrels its fine. get the .675 terror if yours is mobil choke, be sure it is though the extremas are optima or optima pluss something like that, im a Browning man not had a semi auto beretta since my drop in mobil choked 301 Also fine for hp steel. Let them come in is just a wildfowling saying Popping st a high skein will not help the next to come in lower On evening return the best bits tend to fill first and later commercial do tend to come lower progressively. Confidence and where they plan on landing plays a part But not if you have sky busters popping away it will tend to push geese up and also get them further out to roost BTW I not recommending you shoot on or too close to the roost at all - this practice is very bad news and banned by most clubs Not everyone wants to shoot geese at the end of their barrel . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 So to get the aftermarket chokes if that what you call them then you need 3.5" tht what your saying Sorry not good wilth all these terms etc being used Yes I'm doing well put the birds getting higher as season goes on with the 10g I shoot duck and geese so needs to be able to use in both if *** That's why I was thinking keeping my al391 and using gambore 36g 1 through a better choke to give tighter pattern of that would work ? You are far better off with a ten night and day performance against a super mag twelve. It might claim.the same on the box but having done 50 yard tests on same make shells the ten was patterning way better and punching through 12 mm ply the 12 was sticking a few in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 You are far better off with a ten night and day performance against a super mag twelve. It might claim.the same on the box but having done 50 yard tests on same make shells the ten was patterning way better and punching through 12 mm ply the 12 was sticking a few in it Here we go again. You were essentially comparing shells in your tests, not the relative gauges!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Also fine for hp steel. Not everyone wants to shoot geese at the end of their barrel . I know that's why some get told they ain't allowed to shoot the Marsh no more at every club I know of here sky busting is a big disaplinary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Skybusting and knocking out high geese have nothing in common whatsoever. This lads clearly on the money and wants to improve his efficiencey on high birds as recognised the fact he wants that bit more to be humane, and he is going one step the the right way to acchieving his aim getting a decent choke. Hats off to the lad in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Want to be more humane and wound less? Wind it in a bit and hunt rather than shoot There is plenty sport in the expectation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) As others have been saying its not just stepping up to a 3.5 inch cartridge , to complete the story you will need to upgrade to a full after choke to get the best from your gun. For most mallard shooting upgrading to a 3.5inch gun makes little difference until you start using a full after choke so you can step up to No 2 shot and still keep a good patten at 50 yards. There are disadvantge to this however. Close birds will be missed , or if hit smashed. A 3.5 inch shell with 1 5\8ths of No 2 US size shot is great if you expect most of your mallard to be on the very limits of range , but do not expect to hit many teal with it in poor light. I use a HLS Undertaker afterchoke .700. In the UK such chokes can be expensive and it pays to look on American gun shop websites such as Cablias. Such choke is deverstating on geese when used with BB or better BBB at 50 yards , but with factory cartridges even such a load will not kill cleanly beyond this range unless you home load and there are others on here have a lot more experiance than I do. But I have used home loads that others have loaded and they are very, very good. In the UK such chokes can be expensive and it pays to look on American gun shop websites such as Cablias. You also have to think about 3.5 inch shell availibity. Apart from Gamebore Mammoths there is little other choice in most gun shops. Winchesters and Remmington shells seem to be getting harder and harder to find. For the record though I am dropping down to a 3 inch gun after years of using a 3.5 inch. The latter gun was great for geese , but being heavy not so good for shooting duck in very poor light and as I get older much of my shooting is inland at dusk and on some of my marshes the duck flight very late. Edited March 10, 2016 by anser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Want to be more humane and wound less? Wind it in a bit and hunt rather than shoot There is plenty sport in the expectation Range all by itself wounds no more birds remember that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmboy807 Posted March 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 thanks guys don't wait to make a debait I just want advise from experience wildfowlers as this was my first just gone is you call it may not be like on the marshes but its still grest fun just being there waiting and when they do hopeing they will come by way so exciting yes I don't want to blast away at geese half a mile away but I would like to have a tighter pattern the best I can to getting a better clean kill rate before I start popping away that those just out of range now where say if I had whatever is needed wheather it be 3.5inch or chokes I just want a clean kill and food for the table sorry for all the question but I am really gwtting loss as so many different ideas in a simple sentence etc what should I do ? want to stay with 12g as used for pigeons etc cant afford two guns upgrade to 3.5inch and aftermarket choke stick with my gun and get aftermarket choke sorry again just cant wait till next season and want everything ready if I do upgrade have been looking at beretta a400 xtreme unico max 4/5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Stick with that gun get a choke and look to start reloading as soon as its practical for you, is my advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmboy807 Posted March 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 ok again chokes where from and what one teririor choke I have found peope said are mine mobli how do I find out will it say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) I think it will be mobil choke but not a beretta auto expert they have other chokes if they are back bored i honestly dont know for sure what your 391 will be, some one will know on here rest assured of that. or this link could help you identify what you have. http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=73495 Choke to get? Buy the terror .675 from the link i put in the post above or if you dont want to shop in the states get a ufo muller from just choking. Edited March 10, 2016 by TONY R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmboy807 Posted March 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 thanks tony I really appriacte your time and feedback I will properly go for the muller ufo will look at terrier just don't fancy ordering from abroad so my getting this choke it should make the pattern tighter depending will it be ok to still shot duck as well then as I never know what coming unless can see in distance I normally swap to 3 for duck or should I stick to 1s all round as I get geese mallard wigeon and teal coming over so varys all the time so need a allrounder which I now will be hard that's why I keep 3s in until I hear or see geese then swap to 1s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 ok again chokes where from and what one teririor choke I have found peope said are mine mobli how do I find out will it say Paten master and load your own it won"t cost much to get set up and load all your 3" and 3-1/2" loads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmboy807 Posted March 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 I havnt got a clue about realoding and where to start think I would be happier just buying plus having the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Farmboy. I think you should search the net and read up on all the things you want to know. My advice is, until you are more experienced and have shot a bit more, keep your ranges sensible, buy a Briley extended full choke and use 36 gm 1 for everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmboy807 Posted March 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 hi motty thanks but im a novice to using steel not shooting I shoot pigeon etc at range as I can change choke and so on to suit but I don't know much about steel that's why im asking as I trust my accuracy but that will only happen at the range I can shoot that's why im asking questions to extend my range abit more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 hi motty thanks but im a novice to using steel not shooting I shoot pigeon etc at range as I can change choke and so on to suit but I don't know much about steel that's why im asking as I trust my accuracy but that will only happen at the range I can shoot that's why im asking questions to extend my range abit more The answers to all of your questions can be found by searching the net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmboy807 Posted March 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 I know and can be found by asking on this forum is that not the whole point people have happily help me and im grateful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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