Moor’s the pity for conservation

[Brixsmaid]

Seems the conservation project on Langholm Moor in Dumfriesshire has to come to a close, just seen this on a FB page:

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8NTuL0zeBC7SUpNY19XWWk1T0k/preview?pref=2&pli=1

 

I know nothing about the project, apart from old odd mentions in the shooting press - so I won't comment!

 

Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can expand on this!

[Blackpowder]

Looks as if its a case of no gamekeepers no grouse, no bops either.

 

Blackpowder

[panoma1]

Stop the management of moors by gamekeepers for commercial driven grouse shooting, and the moor will become empty and useless except for a bit of sheep grazing, devoid of any wildlife because it will have all been eaten by vermin and predators....what will the vermin and predators do when they have eaten everything?.......beggar off somewhere else for food or die!

 

It seems this is where Langholm is heading now?

 

This gives an insight in what stopping driven grouse shooting, stopping moor management and keepering will bring about to our moorland!

 

Well done Messrs Avery, Oddie, Packham and all those who have signed Averys petition to ban driven grouse shooting.......but do they care?........As long as shooting is stopped........I doubt it!

[JDog]

It is a simple equation. No Grouse no Hen harriers.

 

On another thread I equated low grey partridge numbers and sparrow hawk predation with low grouse numbers and Hen harrier predation. It appears that some people just don't get it.

 

Here is a simplistic version. A well managed grouse moor with good numbers of grouse may be able to support several pairs of Hen harriers predating on the grouse. If grouse numbers crash, which they have done cyclically for ever and a day the same Hen harriers could kill all of the grouse left on the moor. No grouse, no Hen harriers as there is nothing left for them to eat.

 

What then will the RSPB do when one of their emblem birds disappears because of lack of food? You guessed it, blame the grouse shooting interests particularly the game keepers.

[Konnie]

As Jdog has said no food no predators, you have to tolerate the ones that cannot be managed, and control the ones you can. They will never see countryside management does not just benefit quarry species.