andrew f Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 What's people's thoughts on the scope for foxing it's a mildot reticle. I currently have a 2.5-10x50 hawk on my .223 and i am struggling with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) If you can stretch to it just get a 8x56 Schmidt and bender. Won't go wrong with it and a proper CF scope. All you need for foxing as most your shots will be 100 yds. Without sounding rude, you are playing with air rifle, rimfire scopes. Atb Edited April 18, 2016 by winnie&bezza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew f Posted April 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I have two S&Bs I just find when a fox is sat past 150 yards I can't see the blighter due to poor eyesight and the thick reticle so trying to find something to give me a bit more range when required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny_blaster Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I had one on my 243 for ages and it served it's purpose. Never had a problem with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rec-baller Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I've got 4 of them , on my .22 / 17 Hmr /22.250 / . 243 , , yes I do like them , there a great scope , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Well what do I know haha! After I put a Hawke on AirMax on my .223 it just didn't cut it and then got the S&B and didn't look. I just feel more confident knowing I've got a good scope on it. With your eyesight have you tried a 30mm tube? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bang bang birdy Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I have 2 of them one on a .357 Marlin and on 22lr I like them good value for money. Cross hairs are a bit thick on duplex ret , mill dot is better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I was after one a few years back but they seemed to be a US thing at the time, couldn't find one in the UK. I had the 3.5-10x50 WTC and was more than happy, so wanted to try these! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny_blaster Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Well what do I know haha! After I put a Hawke on AirMax on my .223 it just didn't cut it and then got the S&B and didn't look. I just feel more confident knowing I've got a good scope on it. With your eyesight have you tried a 30mm tube? What's a 30mm tube going to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix's rifle Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 What's a 30mm tube going to do? If he's not using a 30mm tube he might want to try one as they usually let more light in? That's my understanding anyhow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 If he's not using a 30mm tube he might want to try one as they usually let more light in? That's my understanding anyhow You answered it for me. Just an option to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew f Posted April 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 my 8x56 is 30mm i have found a nice Zeiss that's on sale with plenty of mag for a reasonable price thanks all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savhmr Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 If he's not using a 30mm tube he might want to try one as they usually let more light in? That's my understanding anyhow Your understanding's wrong I'm afraid. Light in is dependant upon the objective diameter not the tube size. The popularity of larger (30 and 34mm) tube sizes is more to do with the extra amount of windage and elevation you get which is important for longer range shooting. A doubling of objective diameter quadruples the amount of light gathering. Larger tubes = mainly a chance for marketing types to charge more money and offer more adjustments. For true long range use, moa rails which kick the rear of the scope up are used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny_blaster Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Your understanding's wrong I'm afraid. Light in is dependant upon the objective diameter not the tube size. The popularity of larger (30 and 34mm) tube sizes is more to do with the extra amount of windage and elevation you get which is important for longer range shooting. A doubling of objective diameter quadruples the amount of light gathering. Larger tubes = mainly a chance for marketing types to charge more money and offer more adjustments. For true long range use, moa rails which kick the rear of the scope up are used. What he said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix's rifle Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Your understanding's wrong I'm afraid. Light in is dependant upon the objective diameter not the tube size. The popularity of larger (30 and 34mm) tube sizes is more to do with the extra amount of windage and elevation you get which is important for longer range shooting. A doubling of objective diameter quadruples the amount of light gathering. Larger tubes = mainly a chance for marketing types to charge more money and offer more adjustments. For true long range use, moa rails which kick the rear of the scope up are used. I understand what you are saying however would a bigger tube not let more light through? Again, if I'm wrong fair enough, always up for learning something new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 I've always heard it lets more light in but maybe I've been told wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savhmr Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 (edited) It doesn't. I can see why people think it might but when looking at Twighlight factor or brightness, what matters is objective diameter, ocular diameter and magnification. Tube size doesn't come into it as the light is focussed by the lens elements at the objective to the ocular lens group and from there back to your eye. You will see minimal difference in brightness between two similarly constructed scopes using the same objective and ocular lenses. The main tube houses the erector tubes for windage and elevation and with a larger main tube, you have more increments for adjustment...generally not needed for most UK hinting scenarios but we all like to think that bigger is better! For people who gong shoot over private land to say 600 plus yds, a 30mm tube makes more sense than a 25mm tube but light gathering for the same lens groups wont be any different. Edited April 20, 2016 by Savhmr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew f Posted April 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Got one of these coming Monday or Tuesday Zeiss Conquest HD5 5-25×50 SFP SF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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