Beretta 687

[Fredwalton]

Hi all

 

I have just been looking at the above gun and also there is one for sale on here which is a 687 silver pigeon.

 

Looking at the engraving they look to be the same so I was just wondering if there is a difference between the guns as the one in the shop isn't a silver pigeon?

 

Thanks

[sishyplops]

early guns were S687, i believe they were named silver pigeon around 1995, many people myself included prefer the older beretta's , pre silver pigeon, just my opinion but i have and have had several beretta's

[Fredwalton]

early guns were S687, i believe they were named silver pigeon around 1995, many people myself included prefer the older beretta's , pre silver pigeon, just my opinion but i have and have had several beretta's

So if it's pre 1995 does it still have life left in? I know that's a difficult question to answer without seeing. But it looks in good condition

[TONY R]

It will have loads of life left in it, its down to condition what its done, im in agreement with sishyplops i favour the pree silver pigeons .

Edited June 3, 2016 by TONY R

[Paul1440]

The older ones are often referred to as being better built and finished.

 

The older ones generally had 70mm chambers and the later 76mm.

Although they had 76mm chambers they won't be HP steel proofed. So no advantage over 70mm chambers for normal steel loads.

I always look for the older type with the relacement shoulders like the 682s have.

Edited June 3, 2016 by Paul1440

[bostonmick]

Any modern machine made gun is capable of lasting for 100 years looked after correctly.

[sishyplops]

My current beretta's

 

1979 301

1986 303

1992 303

1987 686 20g 26"

1987 686 20g 28"

1997 682 gold

 

I think that's it, all as reliable as the day is long

[Fredwalton]

That's good to know. What would you say is a good price to pay? (Again I know it's difficult without seeing it). As I have said looks in good condition its multi choke

[motty]

The 3" guns may not be steel proofed, but will still be fine to use with any 3" steel loads.

The older ones are often referred to as being better built and finished.

The older ones generally had 70mm chambers and the later 76mm.
Although they had 76mm chambers they won't be HP steel proofed. So no advantage over 70mm chambers for normal steel loads.
I always look for the older type with the relacement shoulders like the 682s have.

[Paul1440]

The 3" guns may not be steel proofed, but will still be fine to use with any 3" steel loads.

Not from the reports I hear from the Wildfowlers down our way.

 

Seen one and others have told me that

the chokes are being bulged by HP steel.

 

I believe that Optima HP chokes have thicker walls compared to Optima and Mobil chokes to cope with steel.

 

On ths I one I saw their was no obvious problem until the choke on the barrel was tried in another gun and it wouldn't fit having swelled.

 

When looking closely the barrel did look a bit belled out..unusual for a beretta.

 

I guess they could have been unlucky.. but I will only use HP steel in an Auto.. Barrels are cheap.

 

Anyway thats a different Debate.. 687s are a great gun. I just prefer the older ones.

[motty]

Not from the reports I hear from the Wildfowlers down our way.

 

Seen one and others have told me that

the chokes are being bulged by HP steel.

 

I believe that Optima HP chokes have thicker walls compared to Optima and Mobil chokes to cope with steel.

 

On ths I one I saw their was no obvious problem until the choke on the barrel was tried in another gun and it wouldn't fit having swelled.

 

When looking closely the barrel did look a bit belled out..unusual for a beretta.

 

I guess they could have been unlucky.. but I will only use HP steel in an Auto.. Barrels are cheap.

 

Anyway thats a different Debate.. 687s are a great gun. I just prefer the older ones.

Sounds like you're talking more about choke failure than any problem with a gun.

[Alex1Nat2]

Not sure of the relevance of Wildfowlers, HP Steel & a 687.

It's not the type of gun you would take on the marsh.

I have been using White Gold 24gm steel cartridges in my 687 for the last 3 or 4 years. Thousands of cartridges & no problems. Chokes come out just like new. Think I bought my gun new in 1991! Old School quality & still as good as they day I bought it.

[sishyplops]

That's good to know. What would you say is a good price to pay? (Again I know it's difficult without seeing it). As I have said looks in good condition its multi choke

 

If it's 28" from a dealer around £850+ dependant on condition, a dealer would ask around a grand for a 30" .

 

privately you should get a 30" for £750-£850

 

28" a little less

 

In all honesty they are better balanced in 30", my 682 gold (not gold e) is 28" and I do like it as I tend to snap shoot at most targets, so I like a shorter lighter gun, but 28" does take a knock price wise

[motty]

It is relevant. I bought my 687 spIV new in 2005 and used it for four seasons on the marsh. I have put loads of large steel through it.

Not sure of the relevance of Wildfowlers, HP Steel & a 687.
It's not the type of gun you would take on the marsh.
I have been using White Gold 24gm steel cartridges in my 687 for the last 3 or 4 years. Thousands of cartridges & no problems. Chokes come out just like new. Think I bought my gun new in 1991! Old School quality & still as good as they day I bought it.