ShaggyRS6 Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 And what is the difference in using one instead of a silencer and should I use one instead off? I think that what I mean to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingo45 Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 And what is the difference in using one instead of a silencer and should I use one instead off? I think that what I mean to say A cutts compensator is mainly used on shotguns for controling recoil .Its a larger piece of pipe with slots cut into it, the blast hits the rear edges suposedly pushing the barrel forwards reducing recoil.Used mainly on autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggyRS6 Posted May 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 And what is the difference in using one instead of a silencer and should I use one instead off? I think that what I mean to say A cutts compensator is mainly used on shotguns for controling recoil .Its a larger piece of pipe with slots cut into it, the blast hits the rear edges suposedly pushing the barrel forwards reducing recoil.Used mainly on autos. OK, I wondered because there is one fitted tio the Daystate X3 I have my eye on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duster Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 The Cutts was also used almost prolifically on the Thompson sub-machine gun. It will work on any gun which requires the muzzle-flip to be reduced. Probably of little value on an air rifle - but give it a try. Cheers Duster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggyRS6 Posted May 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 The Cutts was also used almost prolifically on the Thompson sub-machine gun. It will work on any gun which requires the muzzle-flip to be reduced.Probably of little value on an air rifle - but give it a try. Cheers Duster If I get the gun I will get a good sliencer. Any suggestion. No budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Edit: Duster beat me to it. If I recall correctly, a compensator is a weighted extension of the barrel. It's often used where muzzle flip needs to be minimised, for example when shooting practical or rapid-fire pistol. The extra forward mass, and the venting of the muzzle blast upwards only, helps to counteract muzzle flip. It's not a true muzzle brake, I believe, such as one seen on a 105mm Light Gun, or a .338 or .50 cal rifle. A muzzle brake is used to alleviate recoil forces, not muzzle flip. However the muzzle blast/noise signature when using a brake is pretty intense. Unless a muzzle brake vents the blast horizontally, it'll kick up any ground dust/light debris, should you be shooting from a prone position. That, and the glaringly obvious muzzle flash make life slightly difficult should you wish to remain concealed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggyRS6 Posted May 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Edit: Duster beat me to it. If I recall correctly, a compensator is a weighted extension of the barrel. It's often used where muzzle flip needs to be minimised, for example when shooting practical or rapid-fire pistol. The extra forward mass, and the venting of the muzzle blast upwards only, helps to counteract muzzle flip. It's not a true muzzle brake, I believe, such as one seen on a 105mm Light Gun, or a .338 or .50 cal rifle. A muzzle brake is used to alleviate recoil forces, not muzzle flip. However the muzzle blast/noise signature when using a brake is pretty intense. Unless a muzzle brake vents the blast horizontally, it'll kick up any ground dust/light debris, should you be shooting from a prone position. That, and the glaringly obvious muzzle flash make life slightly difficult should you wish to remain concealed. So why would someone put one of these on an Air Rifle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naddan28 Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Edit: Duster beat me to it. If I recall correctly, a compensator is a weighted extension of the barrel. It's often used where muzzle flip needs to be minimised, for example when shooting practical or rapid-fire pistol. The extra forward mass, and the venting of the muzzle blast upwards only, helps to counteract muzzle flip. It's not a true muzzle brake, I believe, such as one seen on a 105mm Light Gun, or a .338 or .50 cal rifle. A muzzle brake is used to alleviate recoil forces, not muzzle flip. However the muzzle blast/noise signature when using a brake is pretty intense. Unless a muzzle brake vents the blast horizontally, it'll kick up any ground dust/light debris, should you be shooting from a prone position. That, and the glaringly obvious muzzle flash make life slightly difficult should you wish to remain concealed. So why would someone put one of these on an Air Rifle? Well if it reduces recoil, surely it would be more shootable? Although I do bet it wont give muzzle flash and kick up dirt even if you chose to make it run at 60ftlbs like baldrick discribed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA Shaun Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Logun or weirauch for the silencer fella Dont know why it would be on a PCP air rifle tho, no recoil to reduce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 That was my point - it seems pretty moronic to fit a compensator or a muzzle brake to any air rifle, PCP or not. A heavy calibre centrefire, yes, but not an air rifle, unless one is trying to emulate Rambo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Belive it or not they regularly fit them to FT .177 airguns. When I asked why the hell do you need that I was told 'accuracy is everything' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 The Cutts Compensator on my old Winchester pump also had interchangable chokes fitted to it!!!! As for a PCP having NO recoil you try a Barnes or a Quakenbush it all depends on the Cal of the PCP and the FPE being generated! LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 Here we go then, purely coincidently I was clearing down some camera memory cards and found this video clip from Bisley a couple of weeks ago. It's very short, but shows how effective muzzle brakes are on guns that actually need them. They are ugly and bloody unsociable, but they do work. The gun is .308/7.62, if you watch the end of the barrel you can just about see the blast. (very poor quality vid sorry about that) http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v130/sha...rrent=Movie.flv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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