Old farrier Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Hi PW Decided to get into Reloding my rifles 😊 Things have moved on and I would like to get some uptodate stuff Dies case lube tumbler ect Any thoughts appreciated Over to you chaps All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 OF if you just want to do it for a bit of interest and so you don't have to go to the shop and buy more ammo then try the lee loader. Costs about £30, add a nylon hammer and some measuring calipers and you're all set to roll your own. For my first few batches that's all I used, I added a case hand trimmer, a primer hole cleaner and a chamfer/debuting tool. I also bought a vibrating case tumbler because I like shiny brass and a scale because I wanted to make loads different from those I could make with the dipper alone. For a small amount of cash you can get going reloading. If you get into it then buy a press and stuff but you can make perfectly acceptable hunting ammo with the Lee loader. Reloading by volume i.e with the dipper is more than adequate to make decent, repeatable hunting ammo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savhmr Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 For your cals OF (esp the big beggar!), the RCBS rockchucker or Lee classic cast press would work well. Dies....you know about ;-) Cleaning: Lyman tumbler works fine plus an el-cheapo U/S cleaner n(I tumble, size then after trimming and chamfering etc, chuck 'em in the U/S cleaner). Case lube, the Lee stuff is fine as is Lanolin based wax (HPS sell tubs that'd last a lifetime for little money). The rest is up to how precise you want to be, budget and how much of a chore or pleasure you find each task. Personally, I hated trimming using the usual hand trimmers and found the Lee quick trims useless, so invested in a Wilson/Sinclair trimming lathe. Make a chore into a pleasure! Set of MTM load trays, a lee powder thrower and you're away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted November 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 OF if you just want to do it for a bit of interest and so you don't have to go to the shop and buy more ammo then try the lee loader. Costs about £30, add a nylon hammer and some measuring calipers and you're all set to roll your own. For my first few batches that's all I used, I added a case hand trimmer, a primer hole cleaner and a chamfer/debuting tool. I also bought a vibrating case tumbler because I like shiny brass and a scale because I wanted to make loads different from those I could make with the dipper alone. For a small amount of cash you can get going reloading. If you get into it then buy a press and stuff but you can make perfectly acceptable hunting ammo with the Lee loader. Reloading by volume i.e with the dipper is more than adequate to make decent, repeatable hunting ammo.Many thanks for your reply hammer I have got 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted November 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 For your cals OF (esp the big beggar!), the RCBS rockchucker or Lee classic cast press would work well. Dies....you know about ;-) Cleaning: Lyman tumbler works fine plus an el-cheapo U/S cleaner n(I tumble, size then after trimming and chamfering etc, chuck 'em in the U/S cleaner). Case lube, the Lee stuff is fine as is Lanolin based wax (HPS sell tubs that'd last a lifetime for little money). The rest is up to how precise you want to be, budget and how much of a chore or pleasure you find each task. Personally, I hated trimming using the usual hand trimmers and found the Lee quick trims useless, so invested in a Wilson/Sinclair trimming lathe. Make a chore into a pleasure! Set of MTM load trays, a lee powder thrower and you're away. Thanks again for the great information Lots to take onboard Without your help I'd have wasted a lot of money All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 OF, One thing I would suggest is that you contemplate buying a full used set up, or, picking up items as you find them. I have purchased Lee, RCBS, Lyman, Redding and my first press from RCBS has produced many thousands of rounds both Rifle and Pistol calibres. Later another RCBS press a Rockchucker has even enabled the use of Shot shell reloading. I think the only new kit I have has been a couple of die-sets, a set of shell holders and an RCBS Chargemaster. You could use the Lee Loader, however they are calibre specific and a bit labour intensive, there are of course lots of options for you, but if you buy good used kit you will always get your money back if you ultimately decide its not for you. A lot of the people who now purport go load for precision (benchrest go down the route of Sinclair and Harrell Precision) - for the average joe - expensive, slow and a bit specialist. I know some people who now spend more time and money on reloading than they do on the shooting itself. If you have not reloaded then get yourself with an experienced set of hands and take in the knowledge they will share with you. I don't know what calibres you intend to load for but if you shoot small calibres 17s or similar you may need a funnel to get the powder in and when loading small calibres they can be very pressure sensitive (and potentially dangerous). One thing I would recommend anyone to get is neck lubrication brush kit - when I transitioned from pistol to rifle loading I lost lots of new rifle cases through failure to properly lubricate the case neck and then having the sizing mandrel in the die, pick up in the neck and then crush it. I have a lube pad and have tried various lubes including the sprays - when I was in the US a friend put me onto, "imperial sizing wax" its a great lubricant - use it sparingly. Do not over lube inside the case as the lube can degrade the powder, after sizing clean the necks or you may get inconsistent neck tension and hence accuracy? Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted November 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 OF, One thing I would suggest is that you contemplate buying a full used set up, or, picking up items as you find them. I have purchased Lee, RCBS, Lyman, Redding and my first press from RCBS has produced many thousands of rounds both Rifle and Pistol calibres. Later another RCBS press a Rockchucker has even enabled the use of Shot shell reloading. I think the only new kit I have has been a couple of die-sets, a set of shell holders and an RCBS Chargemaster. You could use the Lee Loader, however they are calibre specific and a bit labour intensive, there are of course lots of options for you, but if you buy good used kit you will always get your money back if you ultimately decide its not for you. A lot of the people who now purport go load for precision (benchrest go down the route of Sinclair and Harrell Precision) - for the average joe - expensive, slow and a bit specialist. I know some people who now spend more time and money on reloading than they do on the shooting itself. If you have not reloaded then get yourself with an experienced set of hands and take in the knowledge they will share with you. I don't know what calibres you intend to load for but if you shoot small calibres 17s or similar you may need a funnel to get the powder in and when loading small calibres they can be very pressure sensitive (and potentially dangerous). One thing I would recommend anyone to get is neck lubrication brush kit - when I transitioned from pistol to rifle loading I lost lots of new rifle cases through failure to properly lubricate the case neck and then having the sizing mandrel in the die, pick up in the neck and then crush it. I have a lube pad and have tried various lubes including the sprays - when I was in the US a friend put me onto, "imperial sizing wax" its a great lubricant - use it sparingly. Do not over lube inside the case as the lube can degrade the powder, after sizing clean the necks or you may get inconsistent neck tension and hence accuracy? Good luck! Thanks for the comprehensive reply I would consider a second had set of gear Loading larger caliber so a funnel will be fine Many thanks for the lube recommendation 😊 All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 (edited) Hi Nigel, Not sure what calibre you are reloading, but I bought this kit for the 223 and can't fault it. I haven't worked out to copy and paste a link on the mac book, Google Henry Krank, Lee Breech Lock Challenger Kit, then you just need a set of calibre specific Dies which they stock. They are a great bunch to deal with and really helpful, mine was through the next day. Atb T33 Edited November 10, 2016 by turbo33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted November 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Hi Nigel, Not sure what calibre you are reloading, but I bought this kit for the 223 and can't fault it. I haven't worked out to copy and paste a link on the mac book, Google Henry Krank, Lee Breech Lock Challenger Kit, then you just need a set of calibre specific Dies which they stock. They are a great bunch to deal with and really helpful, mine was through the next day. Atb T33 Hi mate You've been quiet lately hope your well 😊 Thank I give them a ring 👍 All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Yes all good here now Nigel thanks. Hope the same with you. Pic here of a batch of 223 Also go on amazon for an ultrasonic cleaner, James 7000 at 30 quid. Brilliant! But you'll have to ask me for the secret recipe!!! Atb T33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman_l Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 For me it would be books and reading before you consider purchasing anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted November 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 For me it would be books and reading before you consider purchasing anything. Thanks I've been busy doing that and as said I reloded but years ago and things move on Just wanted opinions on what to get or more so what not to Many thanks Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted November 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Yes all good here now Nigel thanks. Hope the same with you. Pic here of a batch of 223 Also go on amazon for an ultrasonic cleaner, James 7000 at 30 quid. Brilliant! But you'll have to ask me for the secret recipe!!! Atb T33 I shall be on to you for the recipe 😊 Very nice looking rounds although I'm going for a tad larger caliber All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 Yes all good here now Nigel thanks. Hope the same with you. Pic here of a batch of 223 Get Richard Lees Modern reloading second edition and read well, lee gear is all you will ever need and make yourself a stainless steel pin tumbler and your cases will be much prettier than above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted November 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 Yes all good here now Nigel thanks. Hope the same with you. Pic here of a batch of 223 Get Richard Lees Modern reloading second edition and read well, lee gear is all you will ever need and make yourself a stainless steel pin tumbler and your cases will be much prettier than above Thanks i will get a copy Although I quite fancy a ultrasonic case cleaner 😊 All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 +1 for the James 7000 ultrasonic cleaner, got mine about a year ago and have not looked back. Cases come out clean using cheap easily available brews! Currently using hot water, vinegar, washing up liquid and a pinch of salt..... I have heard hot water and coke work well too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted November 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 +1 for the James 7000 ultrasonic cleaner, got mine about a year ago and have not looked back. Cases come out clean using cheap easily available brews! Currently using hot water, vinegar, washing up liquid and a pinch of salt..... I have heard hot water and coke work well too. Many thanks for your recommendation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 If you come up you welcome to have a look and play with my set up. But a smart Reloader tumbler with walnut cob Ultra sonic cleaner Lee turret press (index bar removed) Hornady auto powder scale dispenser Hand case prep tools Dies of various makes all male good ammo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted November 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 If you come up you welcome to have a look and play with my set up. But a smart Reloader tumbler with walnut cob Ultra sonic cleaner Lee turret press (index bar removed) Hornady auto powder scale dispenser Hand case prep tools Dies of various makes all male good ammo Thanks for the info I give you a call on the offer and fix a day when you're not coaching 😊👍👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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