LoneGunman Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Two 692s side by side in rack at AGL today. One serial no in 7000s , other in 19000s. Looked different esp in forend thickness. Am I imagining this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 I'd pick the later one every time as things evolve and all the problems should have been ironed out. You maybe right on the wood dimensions as they make changes all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 I bought a new 692 last summer despite all the negative on line comments at it's launch, as a Beretta fan of 30 odd years and owner of many I can say it's just as good as the older ones mechanically maybe the wood finish not so good but a little time soon sorts that. It is a very nicely put together gun that shoots so softly, mine is a LH 32 inch Sporter the only thing I have done is bought a couple of Teague flush chokes can't abide the sticky out things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 One sticking point on the early guns was the low comb height the agjustable had to be fully up to get near a shootable sight picture, that was soon sorted on later batches. The comb adjustment system ain't the best with plastic spacer washers. Fitting a decent bit of kit don't cost the earth and makes the gun better. Getting a good gunsmith to polish the sears to sort the trigger pulls and crispness is another good thing to have done. Turns a good value decent gun into a very nice gun for not a lot of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingo15 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 I'm looking at getting the 692 sporter seems the early ones had a few issues but from what I can see now they are pretty much all sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Imo cracking gun. As said early issues are pretty much sorted. The only thing I can add about triggers is what suits one might not suit another. Same as any gun I spose. Out of the three I've had the two later ones were fine/ good. The early sporter could have done with a fettle. I shot a 692. Black 32" last week and thought it was Mint. Think he paid £2200 S/H Was only 12 months old. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a303 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Mine has been trouble free, totally agree with the wood finish from the factory tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Early ones suffered from some embarrassing quality issues but whether or not the long standing ejector 'O' ring problems inherited from the SV10s has been resolved is uncertain. I'd advise anyone with a 692 (or 690) to get in a few spare 'O' rings and also a pair of selectors because the they've been known to fail too. There are also many reports from the US of the top tang screw coming loose and shearing off, causing the gun to fall apart apart. It happens because they engineered out the bottom screw and the locating spigot used on the SV10s. Therefore the whole action is held together by one tiny screw which apparently now has Loctite from the factory but again, I'd advise any owners to check the screw periodically. The fact that you can pick up a mint 692 Black for 2,200 tells you that these are not popular guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 SH 692 Blacks on Guntrader range from £2795 > £3350. I spent £50 on a 10 year warranty so not too worried and I am yet to own an unreliable Beretta. All mass produced guns just like cars will have the odd quality issue which usually manifests itself early doors and can be fixed under warranty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 SH 692 Blacks on Guntrader range from £2795 > £3350. I spent £50 on a 10 year warranty so not too worried and I am yet to own an unreliable Beretta. All mass produced guns just like cars will have the odd quality issue which usually manifests itself early doors and can be fixed under warranty. I still strongly recommend you buy a few 'O' rings for the pennies they cost and check the tang screw has blue Loctite on the threads. These are not 'the odd quality issue' - and there have been plenty of those too - these are poor design issues, presumably resulting from chiselling the cost down; unforgivable IMO on a gun of this price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 It is unforgivable for the few pence it costs to put the extra screw in the action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) Don't know if either of you have either owned or used one or just read the Internet but I am more than happy with mine, like I said a 10 year warranty should cover any issues but I haven't had any yet and it has had some use. Edited May 17, 2017 by JRDS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) Beretta Clean Sweep! Congratulations to English Open Champion 14/5/2017 1st Paul Simpson (682), 2nd runner up Phillip Thorrold (690 Black) and Taylor Hedgecock in third (692 Black). Taylor posted the highest score of 113/120 and is also EO Junior Champion.(692 Black). Edited May 17, 2017 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Had a few Berettas and still own one, not blinded enough by them to know they also cut corners. A known issue is a known issue whether yours is fine or not. It may not be the case in future and your ten year warranty might be a good investment. Stevo who loves Berettas has killed two of them in the past good guns but not totally fault free as many guns are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 as figgy says , yes I have Killed two berettas in the past my field guns have always had a very hard life, but hey , you drive anything hard enough your break it !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Don't know if either of you have either owned or used one or just read the Internet but I am more than happy with mine, like I said a 10 year warranty should cover any issues but I haven't had any yet and it has had some use. take no notice mate , they sorted the 692s from late 2014 onwards , and for the record it was not the O ring that was the problem ( there may have been the odd one, but that's about it ) the only real problem them they had was the ejector cams , as you know you can turn you ejectors on or off , well if you look at them , there are two small teeth on them , well one of the teeth would snap off , I had it happen to ONE OF THE THREE I have , gmk sent me two new cams inside a week and took under 5 mins to put them in from start to finish. I know a fair few people that have owned an just as many that still use week to week and they and myself have never experienced any of the problems west ward has highlighted , only the one that I have mentioned , enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) I'm not sure that's true stevo. Post #15 refers. Edited May 17, 2017 by Whitebridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) I'm not sure that's true stevo. Post #15 refers. nope true enough one was an A400 action , put 18K through it in first yr poxy thing would do nothing but jam after every shot plus various other problems , and the other was an A300 Extrema same thing happened to that , I wont buy another new model beretta smi auto as long as I have a hole in my *** !! Edited May 17, 2017 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 nope true enough one was an A400 action , put 18K through it in first yr poxy thing would do nothing but jam after every shot plus various other problems , and the other was an A300 Extrema same thing happened to that , I wont buy another new model beretta smi auto as long as I have a hole in my *** !! My christ alive. I had an A400 lite which did the same. Chopped it in for the A400 3.5 inch extreme never missed a beat from day one. Stupid expensive for what it is but doesn't jam and puts the shot where i point it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) My christ alive. I had an A400 lite which did the same. Chopped it in for the A400 3.5 inch extreme never missed a beat from day one. Stupid expensive for what it is but doesn't jam and puts the shot where i point it. You know what mucker. In hindsight I wish I had. Bought the A400 extreme instead of the action. That said when it worked I shot wicked good with it. Edited May 17, 2017 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 I see another new Beretta coming Stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 I see another new Beretta coming Stevo Haha you know last week when I picked up my other gun. I saw a beautiful little AL 391 feild for what looked the right sort of money. Did feel nice in the shoulder 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 With all due respect stevo the selector lugs are indeed - as you found out - a design flaw, but the 'O' rings are too. Mine never caused the known problem of switching to extract by themselves, but at about 12K rounds all 4 of the 'O' rings were knackered. I believe the recommended procedure to extend their life is to pack the selector housing with silicon grease. The 692s might be decent shooting guns, especially for the aficionados, but I meet a lot people when I'm out reffing ESP shoots and of the 8 or 9 people I can easily think of who bought a 692, all but 2 moved on, usually quite quickly. The reality for Beretta these days is that they no longer have that market sector to themselves and releasing a troublesome gun against serious opposition from Browning, CG, Zoli and now Blaser is why there are shed loads of used ones up for sale and the dealers carrying very few new ones in stock. And I speak as someone who's owned 3 various Beretta O/Us. 10 years ago Beretta had 68% of new shotgun sales in the UK but I'd be surprised if it's more than 30% today and IMO that's entirely their own fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 I'm looking at getting the 692 sporter seems the early ones had a few issues but from what I can see now they are pretty much all sorted Traitor....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingo15 Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 Traitor....... not my fault, see the carp customer service from browning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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