Country_est Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 Does any one know what the rough cost of sporting rights are?. I know it probably like how much is a gun, but is it say 10% value of land, dependant on what and where ect ect. long shot possibility of a friend buying farm house and 200+ acres of land, but wanting to sell on the land as he just wants to keep the farm and about 30 acres. So I was just wondering what the cost of buying the sporting rights would be ?. It is currently grazing land for sheep without woodland, AFAIK, expected sale of land to be £2k per Acre as agrictultral land. Anybody any idea's on this or cost, Havent found anything on the web regarding this so far, maily large estates with sporting rights or rights included on the land but not much sold with out. Trev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 The cost of Sporting rights is quite simply, as much as anybody is prepared to pay. It's simply not possible to put a figure on it, as so many factors affect its value, the more game the land holds, the higher the price, the nearer to big cities, the higher the price, etc. I currently rent a small 300 acre rough shoot at a cost of £2.50 per acre, but I reckon that's pretty cheap. I also have access to many thousands of acres of land where I can shoot pigeons and rabbits for free, which I have built up over many years through nurturing relationships with farmers. What are others paying..?? Cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Country_est Posted June 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 Cat Its not so much renting the rights but buying them outright forever, and then selling the land for farming use, I understand what you are saying as I am in a ruff syndicate that rents the land at £3 aprox per acre, but I have found that the farmer had 3 farms and when retiring sold 2 and we now are reduced to aprox 300 acre from 750+ so this would be trying to secure the rights permanatly. Trev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 expected sale of land to be £2k per Acre as agrictultral land. Trev I think that figure is very, very wrong. Whilst I appreciate agriculture land prices vary around the country, I doubt you could buy any kind of land at £2 per acre. Have a look here http://www.vantageland.co.uk/land-for-sale-basingstoke.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Country_est Posted June 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 expected sale of land to be £2k per Acre as agrictultral land. Trev I think that figure is very, very wrong. Whilst I appreciate agriculture land prices vary around the country, I doubt you could buy any kind of land at £2 per acre. Have a look here http://www.vantageland.co.uk/land-for-sale-basingstoke.htm Cranners, The land you are showing will no doubt be built on as all of the possible land around here is being developed as fast as possible to get teh poles to build. The land I was mentioning as hill farming land in the north of england. £2k meant to be £2000 / per acre as for sale of the land, as my mate will be paying close on £900k for the farm and buildngs and the land, and looking to sell the land and just keep 30 acre himself. All this is total theory at the moment as he has yet to have the offer accepted, but if he gets it then looking at the possiblitys. Trev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 We rent two parcels of land for our Syndicate and are paying £2.60 per acre for one block and £3.30 per acre for the second block. I would guess this to be something less than 10% of the value per acre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 First question is does the farm/land your chum is buying come with the sporting rights. Someone else may already hold them. The only way to value them correctly is to get a local land agent to value them as the price will depend on local demand and topography. You will not want to fall out with your chum by offering a price which is not near the ball park figure, so as I say ask a local agent who deals in sporting rights and agricultural valuations. Remember it's money well spent because you can always sell them at a later date, good sporting rights are always in demand. Charlie PS Once you own them you can also rent them out if you find at some stage you don't wish to shoot for a couple of years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 This is a topic which I have recently had a few dealings with. Firstly market value for any type of agricultural land is nearer 4K an acre although it does decrease pro-rata if you are buying a big farm for example. However most land agents advise that if the scenario is a case of achieving a lower price by selling en-mass they simply advise the landowner to split the land into parcels of several acres each where the agricultural land then becomes amemity land and achieves greater interest and of course a higher price. As for the sporting rights, most of people I know get the small syndicate shoots for between £2.50-4.00 an acre. Anything bigger then it is around £6-£10 an acre.Then there is the sporting rights which go to open tender-these again are a different kettle of fish. A local estate near me is up for grabs and the bidding is currently at over £14,000 for a permitted 8 mixed days shooting. That figure does not include a keeper, but in the advert one is available at extra cost!!!!!!! I think alot of it depends on how well you get on with your landowner. Most of the shooting rights down here in suffolk was very reasonable in the late 70's and 80's until the Americans came after the natural gas discoveries in this area. They decided they wanted to try a little bit of English sport and a lot of the Gas exploration companies paid film star money for shooting rights so their employees could go shooting. Obviously when the Americans went the legacy of expensive shooting rights was here to stay. Regards starlight32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 We still pay £1 per acre for our 650 acre great shoot in Devon.Hope farmers not on this forum or we'll be paying double soon. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk shooter Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 We pay £4.50/acre for 1335 acres of mixed Arable and woodlands/plantations. AS others have mentioned already £2K/acre to buy is extremely Cheap and if something like that came up for sale round here, I would bite peoples hand off. Starlight, i assume £14,000 is for the year and not permantly either that or on say a five year lease otherwise it seems too cheap for sporting rights inperpetuem. SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 I think alot of it depends on how well you get on with your landowner. Most of the shooting rights down here in suffolk was very reasonable in the late 70's and 80's until the Americans came after the natural gas discoveries in this area. They decided they wanted to try a little bit of English sport and a lot of the Gas exploration companies paid film star money for shooting rights so their employees could go shooting. Obviously when the Americans went the legacy of expensive shooting rights was here to stay. Regards starlight32 Actually starlight the yanks where 'over here' in Suffolk since WW11. Their huge presence then and later during the cold war years pushed up the cost of a lot of things but kept the local economy from going down the pan! Nowadays it's not the yanks or any other foreigners who are pushing up the local land prices but (certainly in the case of small parcels of rough shooting land) it's the Brits, some local and some not so. A good marshy area suitable for a flight pond seems to make around £10k per acre and it's generally the land/estate agents who are pushing prices on this type of ground. It's a sellers market and as always subject to supply and demand and the demand is HIGH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trakker01 Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 here's my 2 bob worth...... usually agricultural dry land varies in price from what ever some one will pay, the better drainage & water supply the better, rocky ,hilly or water logged land is much ,much less...any thing from £2400- £7000 per acre..averaging £5000 for grade a-b, good grass ......generally..unless some bo zo gets carried away.... as far as shooting rights go...if you buy the land..its yours unless leased out under contract, but that dont stop you shooting there for pest & culling, for your neighbouring crops.. depending what you shoot or breed depends what you charge ............. hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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