harves Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Returned from Argentina / Cordoba region, shot 589 pigeons. The main shooting was high volume doves, 1392 doves. So total for 3 days bag, pigeons + doves = 1981 birds. I do not post this to lessen the bag limits that you lads shoot in the U.K. but only to show you the volume of birds to be had. The pigeon shooting is better in Paragay and also in so other parts of Argentina, but still very good in the area that I was. The numbers of birds down there is simply hard to believe. Now my Pigeon shooting here in the U.S. for the year is 0. I've not found fields or farms that have birds. On the dove front, last year, the season is Sept 1 - 30th we took 4 limits each time we hunted which is 15 birds each. On the opening day we had 5 people all of who filled limits. I hope to come to the U.K. one day to experience your excellent pigeon shooting and I have the Archie Coats VHS on Pigeon Shooting in the U.K. so I have an idea of what the experience is like. Do you know Chris Batha? He has a show on the T.V. here title "Wingshooting the World" and one of the shows was on Pigeon Shooting in Paragay. He goes to very expensive places but the program is very good with high production values. One show was on shooting driven pheasant in Scotland, some very tall birds were being taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 I moved this post from the, "How many pigeons are shot by ................" thread, as I think it is interesting enough to have a thread of its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 Argentina seems to be plagued with them and I believe that the doves are a lot smaller and faster than our woodpigeon so that good accuracy is needed so well done on getting such a bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 I like the sound of it, but think I would have had enough after a day and would want to go sea trout fishing.. oops, sorry I dropped off into a dreamwold then Do those numbers add to the total shot by PW memebers though? that would boost it a bit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 In Argentina , are you shooting the birds over crops, if so, what crops ? I saw a TV film in the US, of them being shot around large grain stores and there were literally 1000's of birds flying around. I have shot them on harvested maize fields in Georgia and it was very different from pigeon shooting here. We stood in the hide in shorts, there were 12 hides round a 30 acre field, we had our limit within an hour and then had a barbecue that lasted all afternoon, with the shooters families all attending. Great fun, but quite surreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 Welcome Harves . We dont have bag limits here, as you will see some guys shoot well over a hundred pigeons a day and some ( moi ) significantly less. The only thing putting me off dove shooting in Argentina is the travel time from England ( and the fact I cant afford it ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holland&Holland Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 i have seen the video's of argentina dove shooting. But somehow i find it more to do with firing you're gun loads of times at an abundace of doves then sporting shooting. Cannot explain why, just a feeling. i would choose a 50 pigeon day in lincolnshire any time above a 500 dove day in Argentina. By the way you mention Paragay, is that a pink skydiver ? (guess you mean Paraguay?? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 That must be fantastic sport. Somewhat like driven mini grouse. I have read several articles in the British sporting press featuring reports by Brits who have "had a go" and they all rave about it. Many seem to use 28 bore with much success. I have promised our syndicate that if I win the lottery I will treat everyone to a weeks dove shooting in Argentina. Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 when i go to the farm in michigan i dont see many pigeons over there,only lots of tame ones that hang around the barns.so dad says, i call him dad because he is like a dad to me go out and shoot them.so out comes the 12 shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harves Posted July 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 Yes I did mean paraguay, which has excellent pigeon shooting but good shooting can certainly be had in Argentina, depending on the reqion that you're in. On the dove shooting, they are smaller birds, like our Mourning Doves here in the States and can be shot in a number of ways. The main shooting is pass shooting as the birds move from the roost to the fields and also they can be shot in the fields. With the large number of birds the outfitters move you between locations in the morning and afternoon shoots to give a variety of bird presentations. Many who've gone to Argentina say they don't want to shoot more than 500 shells per day and then the birds start flying and suddently their shell count is at 1000 + for the day. It is very hard to hold back until you've shot a few thousand shells. The pigeons are hunted more in your style, with field shooting, hides and decoys used, but they are also present for pass shooting as they fly with the doves. So, with a good bird boy it is possible to pick the pigeons out when they fly with the doves, as they are much larger than the doves and shoot them. The outfitter puts a limit of 200 birds ( pigeons ) per shooter per day on the pigeons as the numbers are smaller and they do not reproduce at the rate that the doves do. With the doves they are millions of them and they consume 25% of the crop, so the land owners want them shot. The distance from the States to Argentina is great also, but now is the time to experience the best wingshooting in the world so, if you're up for it you may want to consider going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 not to sure but i think the mourning doves over in michigan you cant shoot, think they put a ban on them not to sure.thats the very small doves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harves Posted July 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 Mossy, You are correct on the Michigan Morning Dove shooting, the season is closed. Michigan did have a test hunt zone in the Southern Part of the state but the anti hunters were successful in closing that part of the state also. It is interesting that they won't allow the hunting of morning doves in Michigan which allows the use of bait piles for deer hunting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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