pork chop Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 Has anyone internally threaded carbon tube,it’s 1mm wall so tried a 1mm pitch but delrin plug I turned n threaded just either would screw in or was to lose ,I’m new to threading on lathe n just can’t seem to get it right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 Yes every day, is it carbon rod turned or sheeting like cfc carbon fibre. 1mm wall will take some threading no matter what.any more info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted March 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 Just carbon wrap tube 32mm diameter 1mm wall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 A lot depends on its structure if it will let you cut a thread without it just tearing off. Carbon wrap isn't great for that. How long is the tube. Pm me some measurements over and I could try and duplicate it in some better grade carbon. Can I ask what it's for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted March 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, washerboy said: A lot depends on its structure if it will let you cut a thread without it just tearing off. Carbon wrap isn't great for that. How long is the tube. Pm me some measurements over and I could try and duplicate it in some better grade carbon. Can I ask what it's for I’m trying to make a mod for my air rifle ,I know it’s commonly used .Its cutting ok not sure if I’m using correct pitch and depth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocette Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 I make a few silencers,,both for air rifles and rimfires and find it easier not to attempt threading the outer tube. I tend to use 16mm ID aluminium tube for the inner tube,,internally threaded at each end to fit onto the two end caps. An o-ring sealing each end cap in the outer tube does the job nicely. Carbon tube sounds nice but I use 40mm black plastic waste pipe which is quite strong enough. The key to it all is to wrap the outer tube with a layer of 2mm self adhesive neoprene and finished with some thick shrink fit tube,,,cricket bat handle stuff seems to work well. This prevents any trace of resonance and improves any silencer beyond belief. Inside the inner aluminium tube I usually use three different lengths of 15.9mm spring separated by 5mm thick nylon washers. Plenty of staggered holes in the inner tube gets the gasses out into the outer chamber which is filled with green pan scourer . Volume is your friend here so make the thing as long as you can accept to get the optimum quietness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted March 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Velocette said: I make a few silencers,,both for air rifles and rimfires and find it easier not to attempt threading the outer tube. I tend to use 16mm ID aluminium tube for the inner tube,,internally threaded at each end to fit onto the two end caps. An o-ring sealing each end cap in the outer tube does the job nicely. Carbon tube sounds nice but I use 40mm black plastic waste pipe which is quite strong enough. The key to it all is to wrap the outer tube with a layer of 2mm self adhesive neoprene and finished with some thick shrink fit tube,,,cricket bat handle stuff seems to work well. This prevents any trace of resonance and improves any silencer beyond belief. Inside the inner aluminium tube I usually use three different lengths of 15.9mm spring separated by 5mm thick nylon washers. Plenty of staggered holes in the inner tube gets the gasses out into the outer chamber which is filled with green pan scourer . Volume is your friend here so make the thing as long as you can accept to get the optimum quietness There’s an idea ,I’ve got some 20x2 ally tube .Its gonna be an over barrel shroud so I’ll have to think about it some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 You will struggle with depth of thread with a 1mm wall thinkness. https://www.newmantools.com/tech/threadmf.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 10 hours ago, pork chop said: I’m trying to make a mod for my air rifle ,I know it’s commonly used .Its cutting ok not sure if I’m using correct pitch and depth hello, what model air rifle ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocette Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 2 hours ago, washerboy said: You will struggle with depth of thread with a 1mm wall thinkness. https://www.newmantools.com/tech/threadmf.htm I should have said that I use 16mm ID /20mm OD tube for that very reason. 2mm wall thickness threaded for 10mm depth works well. I locktite the threaded barrel end cap to the inner tube to fix it in place and unscrew the other end to dismantle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted March 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, what model air rifle ? It’s a p15 1 minute ago, Velocette said: I should have said that I use 16mm ID /20mm OD tube for that very reason. 2mm wall thickness threaded for 10mm depth works well. I locktite the threaded barrel end cap to the inner tube to fix it in place and unscrew the other end to dismantle. I had a quick look last night and it’s not gonna work using the tube I have but I’ve got some 30x2mm ally coming .Short of hoping I can get carbon sleeve to go over it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, pork chop said: It’s a p15 hello, do these not have a shroud ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted March 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 Just now, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, do these not have a shroud ? Yeh they do but not very good .Ive already done one shroud but decided to shorten it n now decided to use 32mm tube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 Just now, pork chop said: Yeh they do but not very good .Ive already done one shroud but decided to shorten it n now decided to use 32mm tube hello, ok i can understand that, your shroud looks very good, lets us know how compares with original, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted March 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 The one in the pic is much better than factory,I’ve just gone off the look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, pork chop said: The one in the pic is much better than factory,I’ve just gone off the look hello, not sure if these barrel modifications make much difference, my BSA R10 had one but shot much quieter with just a decent silencer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted March 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 The Dempsey mod is said to be very good ‘tbh I just like to tinker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 14 minutes ago, pork chop said: The Dempsey mod is said to be very good ‘tbh I just like to tinker Nothing wrong with that, 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, pork chop said: The Dempsey mod is said to be very good ‘tbh I just like to tinker hello, i had a special silencer on my R10, did not know at the time until i contacted the maker, Nutshot, not cannot believe how much they sell for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 minute ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, i had a special silencer on my R10, did not know at the time until i contacted the maker, Nutshot, not cannot believe how much they sell for And there rare now as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mice! said: And there rare now as well hello, i know they are, mine went on the R10 barrel with the screw thread set in half way making a front mod and barrel shroud all in one, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted March 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 Cracked it at last ,right pitch helped 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 On 26/03/2020 at 11:34, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, i know they are, mine went on the R10 barrel with the screw thread set in half way making a front mod and barrel shroud all in one, hello, to be honest i much preferred the normal silencer with a floating R10 barrel, i did sell it on, 1 hour ago, pork chop said: Cracked it at last ,right pitch helped 🙄 hello, looks a proper job, post a pic when fitted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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