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[grrclark]

2 hours ago, dodgyrog said:

Maybe he was right! Death rate .01% of those infected. Nothing extraordinary about that!

Broadly 3,000,000 cases confirmed globally and 200,000 deaths.  That equals 6.7% by my arithmetic.

So where does the 0.01% come from? 

[nnorman32]

The  official medical term for injecting disinfectant into the human body is Embalming

 

[ordnance]

7 hours ago, grrclark said:

Broadly 3,000,000 cases confirmed globally and 200,000 deaths.  That equals 6.7% by my arithmetic.

So where does the 0.01% come from? 

He just made it up, people seem to do that a lot now.  Maybe downplaying it makes them feel safer. 

Edited April 26, 2020 by ordnance

[dodgyrog]

19 hours ago, grrclark said:

Broadly 3,000,000 cases confirmed globally and 200,000 deaths.  That equals 6.7% by my arithmetic.

So where does the 0.01% come from? 

Have a look at the att

 

[grrclark]

2 hours ago, dodgyrog said:

Have a look at the att

 

The premise of the argument in that YouTube video is that the actual infection rate from Covid19 is far higher and therefor dilutes the mortaility rate.  That is very likely true and I don't think it would be disputed by any scientist, assuming of course that the actual count of deaths does not significantly under represent the actual amounts too.

I shall qualify this response by saying I didn't watch the video all the way through, quite frankly I have better things to do, however, the primary evidence referenced in that video is antibody testing carried out in California.  Antibody testing makes assessment of who has developed antibodies to the disease through having had exposure to it, assumig that testing is reliable.

The conclusion presented in the video is based on a relatively small sample size of 800 odd folk, but what was the demographic makeup of that sample group and was there a control group to validate the results?  Not withstanding the veracity of the approach, the results suggest an infection rate that is potentially 40 times higher than is currently confirmed.

However, lets assume that your 0.01% mortality rate is correct, we know there have been 200,000 confirmed Covid19 deaths as a minimum, so if that was to represent 0.01% of total cases that would mean that there were 2 billion people infected with the disease and not just the 3 million that we know about.  An infection rate 666 times higher (no satanic inference in that number, it's just artithmetic).

The outcome is that the mortality rate globally is almost certainly less than the 6.7% indicated by the current known infections/deaths, however it is also no where near as low as 0.01% as you suggest, we would not have even detected that sort of deviation in the course of measuring deaths as normal.  If it was as low as 0.01% Covid19 would not be a thing at all.

Hence back to my original question, where did the 0.01% figure come from?

 

[grrclark]

14 hours ago, ordnance said:

He just made it up, people seem to do that a lot now.  Maybe downplaying it makes them feel safer. 

Maybe. So many people also seem to rely on the YouTube musings of some politically and socially disaffected types rambling on in their bedrooms, but I suppose that is easier than having to actually think in a structured and critical way for yourself.

[mel b3]

We all see things differently in life , that might be down to education , or upbringing ,or maybe just life experiences.  One man might see things as percentage points , another man might see things as lines of coffins.

I try to see percentage points , but as this business is dragging on , and I'm hearing horror stories , I'm seeing the coffins 😕. 

[NoBodyImportant]

This might be the treatment he was talking about.    It was called something else but I cannot remember. This isn’t the exact procedure but something like it.  I saw something  about it on tv a month ago, it wasn’t about crona but just virus in general.   And to be honest it’s all smoke and mirrors.  On paper it seems to work but when they do the clinical trials they pick people that are going to survive anyway.  Yes the UV disinfect kills the virus in the blood but the second it goes but into the body it’s reinfected.  Im not sure about the light in the lungs, that wasn’t in the tv program I saw but basically you pull blood out, run it through UV radiation and then put it back in.  I will take my chances with the virus.  

Edited April 28, 2020 by NoBodyImportant