wilkie2 Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 I have narrowed my choice down to the HW95K or lightning xl.............I know its been asked numerous times before but I dont want to buy one and then regret not getting the other. Looking at getting a .177 mainly target shooting but moving on to rabbits and rats once i get some permissions sorted so as the question goes what are your feelings on the best one to buy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08shooter Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 hw everytime built like panzers they will do your grandchildren if looked after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSniper Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 i own a hw95 luxus, its very accuratre, smooth and powerful. its also light which would be ideal as u are new to the pest control game. overall i think wiehrauchs are the best airguns u can get as they hardly fault and give high performance. hope this helps! Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonna Shoot a Wabbit Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 here is one for the lightning. very pleased with mine, .177 shot lots of rats, bunnies with it. volumetric silencer is superb... trigger good, well balanced and overall a neat rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve3562 Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 hello i just got my xl lightning in 22., the silencer is really good much better than the hw95k silencer-silents at around 15-20 yards away no twang, no bad traditional recoil, great symthetic stock- useful if out and about no need to worry abnout it getting damp and cracking or scratching. well balanced and carbine all in all another top gun from the best gun makers-BSA Thanks steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theskyfox Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 I own the HW95K and can definately reccommend it! I have had some fantastic long range shots with it in 177 and find it superb. Since purchasing it last year, I've only ever had to set the sights twice and it hits pellet after pellet in the same tiny hole. Mine chronos at about 11.8ftlbs with Logun penetrators, so hits hard too! Totally recommended (y) -Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeihrauchPower Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Need i answer! Weihrauch all the way!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rssquash Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 I bought an XL about two and a half years ago, when it arrived I fitted my scope but couldn't get it to fire on the bulls eye it was to far to the left, took the scope off and put a straight edge down the sight rail and it was on there _issed, so I contacted BSA they were not particulary helpfull, as luck would have it the courier lost it on its way back to them so I got me money back from them, bought a HW95 instead had it for about a year it was VERY good, shot three hundred and fifty rabbits, so impressed I moved upto a HW100 fantastic would not ever by another make gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve3562 Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 a hw95k is just a normal looking gun, the tactical IMO is a much sexier looking gun Bsa went for a sort of "SWAT" looking gun and i think they have pulled it off. the choice is yours but i know i wouldnt swap my xl tactical for some run of the mill 95k Thanks steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA Shaun Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Both good guns. For your money from either you are getting: 2 stage trigger Beech stock In the region of 12ft/lbs out of the box Ambi stocks Differences are that XL is a lot lighter than the wacker and will cost you about £20 less. It's about 8.5" shorter as well so easier to swing. Have shot both and they are both great guns but my money would go on an XL tactical (as long as you are a righty, as the synth stock is right handed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeihrauchPower Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 a hw95k is just a normal looking gun, the tactical IMO is a much sexier looking gun Bsa went for a sort of "SWAT" looking gun and i think they have pulled it off. the choice is yours but i know i wouldnt swap my xl tactical for some run of the mill 95k Thanks steve I too have shot a lightning and it wasn't bad. Anyone who has shot the both should know that the Weihrauch trigger is far superior. At the end of the day it's a quality bunny basher he's after (i assume). Not a SWAT lookalike! Leave that for FAC when at least it's not quite as laughable. Both perform well but my moneys definatly on the Weihrauch. Don't get me wrong! I'd love to remark on how the Engineering is better than the German Weihrauch, but this simply isn't true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkie2 Posted August 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 well thanks for all the replies,I reckon its gonna be the weirauch hw95k that I end up getting but when I get up to blackpool Ill try them both together just to see if the XL manages to change my mind.......... I will add onto this post which I ended up getting,hopefully by tuesday at the latest ,(gonna try and get up there before that if possible) again thanks for the advice and keep it coming cos I aint bought one just yet,still only about 80%certain ............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr lee Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 I am fortunate in the way that I own the 95k with the silencer and my shooting partner owns the Lightning XL. The first major difference I noticed when shooting both initially is the 95k is a LONG rifle when compared to the Lightning. The lightning is a lovely rifle to hold and shoot. It is nice and compact, very accurate and has a pleasant 'thwack' when fired. The trigger on the lightning is nowehere near the same quality as on the 95k though. The 95k shoots fairly quietly. (compared to my shooting partners lightning) The trigger is lovely and smooth if not a touch 'light' when first used. The silencer on the 95k is also easy to remove if needs be without having to resort to clamps and heat methods. I find my HW a bit picky on pellets though. It will shoot Bisley mags, RWS H points and field and target pellets really well, but throws accupells and logun penetrators all over the place. Mates Lightning is similar. His will also throw accupells anywhere it wants but your desired target. We have also noticed the .177 is also quite a tight fit on most pellets. Almost to the point with some makes where you don't actually think it will go in there without damaging the skirt of the pellet. All in all, both great rifles. Having put at least 200+ pellets down the BSA and at least 4 tins through the 95k I am pleased I chose the HW95k. Just a shame about it's length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkie2 Posted August 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 been put back now,cant make it up there till thursday the worst thing is the longer i wait the more i keep coming up with different reasons over which one to buy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airssassin Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 It all depends on which you prefer and what you will be using it for. These guns are totally different weights and lengths. See which you prefer the feel of. The lightening is great up to about 30yds (some say further). The HW95 being longer and heavier is probably good for a bit further as it will be affected less by recoil. I own the BSA lightening XL beech stock in 0.177 with a gas ram fitted and it suits me well. I appreciate the light weight and have learnt how to shoot it accurately. Because it is light and short it tends to recoil quite a bit (especially with the spring), so good technique / practise is required. It will reward if you put in the work. I have narrowed my choice down to the HW95K or lightning xl.............I know its been asked numerous times before but I dont want to buy one and then regret not getting the other. Looking at getting a .177 mainly target shooting but moving on to rabbits and rats once i get some permissions sorted so as the question goes what are your feelings on the best one to buy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 If you plan to keep it standard, then go HW95. If you want to modify it then get a BSA (Theoben gas ram is what I'm thinking. Much better than any spring in my experience, and for £60 well worth it as it transforms the gun!). I don't think you can get a ram for a HW95. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaman1 Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 If you plan to keep it standard, then go HW95. If you want to modify it then get a BSA (Theoben gas ram is what I'm thinking. Much better than any spring in my experience, and for £60 well worth it as it transforms the gun!). I don't think you can get a ram for a HW95. yes you are correct a gas ram can not be fitted to the HW 95k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve3562 Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 get the damn BSA B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaman1 Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 time this thread was closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkie2 Posted September 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 time this thread was closed. why? Iwas hoping it would stay around until thursday and Ill post which I bought after all the advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 time this thread was closed. why? Iwas hoping it would stay around until thursday and Ill post which I bought after all the advice Just ignore him, grumpy old ***! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkie2 Posted September 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 well,I took the plunge..... went up to b.a.r today and bought the hw95k,thanks for all the input and advice but dont let it stop now Ive bought one,if there is anything in particular I should know about the gun or its care feel free to pass it on b.a.r had loads of 2nd hand rifles in,some great bargains to be had if you manage to get up there. I was impressed with the lightning but had already virtually decided to get the 95 before I got there,Im sure I made the right choice but may have to start saving for an xl now too.......but if my wife reads this she will kill me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeihrauchPower Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 B) :blink: Well done mate! You made the right choice! I was worried towards the end of the thread that you'd swing the BSA way! Your Weihrauch will give you many years of good service! And you can always get it tuned up in the future! Almost forgot! You should sign up to the new Weihrauch owners club forum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkie2 Posted September 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 B) :blink: Almost forgot! You should sign up to the new Weihrauch owners club forum! just heading over there now to sign up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_colt Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Good choice; However I would like to point out that the new 95's that have an actual "silencer" as opposed to a cocking weight are termed HW95S. This comes from the guys themselves but they suprisingly have not ammended their site to reflect this yet. I got mine a few months ago and had exactly the same problem with Crossman acupels in .177 . My trusty old choice of AirArms Field Diabolo paid off and its a deadeye shot everytime. Pete Wadeson tested it in Gun Mart in August I think. I beleive his review was marred as he choose the acupells to test it with. Feed it the right diet and you will rival the HW80 gas ram every time. mr_colt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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