ditchman Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 for the end caps on the posts you can use some of your individual yorkshire puds.....and for decking stain ..russel up a job lot of gravy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted January 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 25 minutes ago, ditchman said: for the end caps on the posts you can use some of your individual yorkshire puds.....and for decking stain ..russel up a job lot of gravy 🤣🤣🤣🤣😉😉😉 Billy wouldn't agree 🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 Good effort. What is the balustrade like for lateral restraint? Can you lean your full weight against it without noticeable deflection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted January 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 6 hours ago, WalkedUp said: Good effort. What is the balustrade like for lateral restraint? Can you lean your full weight against it without noticeable deflection? It's funny you should say this as only this morning I said to my Mrs the length between the wall and the steps is not "solid" the other two lengths are better because they are at 90° to each other. They advised 10mm screws which I used but there are only 3 in each post but I did strengthen under the decking with 4" x 3" so the screw gois through the decking and into the 4" x 3". I would say that the previous wooden balustrade was more substantial, this stainless and glass is more decorative to be honest. Saying that the top handrail has not been fitted yet but I doubt that it would help stop the forward backward movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted January 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 This is the one "walkedup" furthest away in the picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 Can you not anchor the top rail to the wall? .. and what about attaching stainless strip braces to the verticals on the garden side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted January 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, amateur said: Can you not anchor the top rail to the wall? I shall have a look into that but they don't give you too much but I will certainly give it a coat of looking over 😉 thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 hour ago, harrycatcat1 said: This is the one "walkedup" furthest away in the picture Yes, it is hard to get the stiffness required though fixing into timber. No matter how well fixed it relies upon clamping the wood and any tiny compression of the small base gets magnified at +1100mm. Newer posts are traditionally fixed through the floor rather onto it, and staircase balustrades generally have better geometric stability due to all the 90° bends etc. Longer, bigger screws won’t help. If it feels just about ok then you can probably live with it, if the steel handrail is one long rigid piece it will transfer the lateral load onto more fixing points and so should feel more rigid. Good luck 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted January 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, WalkedUp said: Yes, it is hard to get the stiffness required though fixing into timber. No matter how well fixed it relies upon clamping the wood and any tiny compression of the small base gets magnified at +1100mm. Newer posts are traditionally fixed through the floor rather onto it, and staircase balustrades generally have better geometric stability due to all the 90° bends etc. Longer, bigger screws won’t help. If it feels just about ok then you can probably live with it, if the steel handrail is one long rigid piece it will transfer the lateral load onto more fixing points and so should feel more rigid. Good luck 👍 The old wooden posts were at least 18" below the level of the decking with 3 x 7" screws and the bottom rail had stacks of screws in so very stable. It was the decking that was bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 42 minutes ago, harrycatcat1 said: I shall have a look into that but they don't give you too much but I will certainly give it a coat of looking over 😉 thanks. eBay do short lengths of stainless tube in a range of diameters, if you haven't enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted January 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 hour ago, amateur said: eBay do short lengths of stainless tube in a range of diameters, if you haven't enough. Thanks I will have a look 😉👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 hours ago, harrycatcat1 said: I shall have a look into that but they don't give you too much but I will certainly give it a coat of looking over 😉 thanks. Do the supplier/merchant you got this from not have suitable wall-to-post brackets or even diagonal braces to suit your needs ? Like a comment above,,,, once the handrail is fixed it'll be more rigid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted January 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, JKD said: Do the supplier/merchant you got this from not have suitable wall-to-post brackets or even diagonal braces to suit your needs ? Like a comment above,,,, once the handrail is fixed it'll be more rigid. I've not asked the supplier to be honest 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, harrycatcat1 said: I've not asked the supplier to be honest 👍 Worth a go. Must be an option as not all balustrades can be fixed the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted January 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 10 hours ago, JKD said: Worth a go. Must be an option as not all balustrades can be fixed the same. They have been closed since day before Christmas eve they will be back today I think 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted January 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 Hand rail in position but not fixed/drilled/tapped yet. Just seeing how it looks first. In the picture at the top of the steps the right hand part of the hand rail "overhang" on the last picture is a fraction more than the left hand side. Probably not too noticeable but I know. Going to get a stainless steel cutting disk for the angle grinder to cut some off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted January 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2023 Improvised vice to drill the stainless Steel hand rail. I've drilled and tapped 10 holes in a couple of hours this morning. It was easier than I thought. Only another 20 or so to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted January 6, 2023 Report Share Posted January 6, 2023 Taking shape nicely 👍🙂 Are we all invited to the opening party 🥂🍻🍾🎉🎊🍕🌮🍟🕺💃🤓🥳🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted January 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2023 38 minutes ago, JKD said: Taking shape nicely 👍🙂 Are we all invited to the opening party 🥂🍻🍾🎉🎊🍕🌮🍟🕺💃🤓🥳🤣 Of course 👍😉🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted January 6, 2023 Report Share Posted January 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, harrycatcat1 said: Of course 👍😉🤣🤣 I'll get my train ticket booked,,,,, oh, hang on 🤔🤭🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted January 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2023 15 minutes ago, JKD said: I'll get my train ticket booked,,,,, oh, hang on 🤔🤭🤣 🤣🤣👍👍👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted January 6, 2023 Report Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, JKD said: Taking shape nicely 👍🙂 Are we all invited to the opening party 🥂🍻🍾🎉🎊🍕🌮🍟🕺💃🤓🥳🤣 Well i aint going, all the grub will be swimming in gravy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted January 6, 2023 Report Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, billytheghillie said: Well i aint going, all the grub will be swimming in gravy! It's 'JUS' don't you know !? He's used all the gravy to seal and stain the decking 🥴🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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