Doormat Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 (edited) 46 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: And how do you identify which business' they are? Obviously we don’t but boycotting all would apply more pressure. No one is asking for special privileges, well not Brits! anyway! We are asking that everyone must abide by the laws of the UK, regardless what culture you came from or adhere to. You cannot have a 2 tier system that favours non white British in their own country, that is discriminatory and racist. There are now parts of my home city that are dangerous for white British to enter, I’m not exaggerating, some areas are no go. Migrants and other cultures have built their own communities and pretty much their own rules and flagrantly ignore the laws we have to adhere to. Edited August 9 by Doormat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 44 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: And how do you identify which business' they are? The ones that have been identified in the past , and those that carry on doing so . The bikes parked outside. These migrant hotels. That do deliveries . To name but a few. These. Drug gangs setting up . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 15 minutes ago, Doormat said: Obviously we don’t but boycotting all would apply more pressure. No one is asking for special privileges, well not Brits! anyway! We are asking that everyone must abide by the laws of the UK, regardless what culture you came from or adhere to. You cannot have a 2 tier system that favours non white British in their own country, that is discriminatory and racist. Boycotting all? So how does that work? Do you mean all small businesses? It wouldn't work, at least not without boycotting mostly legitimate businesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doormat Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 23 hours ago, 12gauge82 said: Boycotting all? So how does that work? Do you mean all small businesses? It wouldn't work, at least not without boycotting mostly legitimate businesses. Boycotting all would put pressure on both these communities and governments Why do you think the world boycotted Russian imports? A business that has been running for decades is on the verge of folding because Russia was its biggest customer. They have already laid off 20 workers. Does the government help, no, does Russia care, no. Boycotting does immense damage and the knock on effects are huge. A these silly Muslims and migrants are biting the hands that feed them…enough us enough….feed them no more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 4 hours ago, Doormat said: Boycotting all would put pressure on both these communities and governments Why do you think the world boycotted Russian imports? A business that has been running for decades is on the verge of folding because Russia was its biggest customer. They have already laid off 20 workers. Does the government help, no, does Russia care, no. Boycotting does immense damage and the knock on effects are huge. A these silly Muslims and migrants are biting the hands that feed them…enough us enough….feed them no more. You still haven't answered, how do you identify the businesses that need boycotting? It's not like there's a sign above the door saying 'we employ illegal immigrant labour here!' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted August 11 Author Report Share Posted August 11 No solution to shut the stable door after the pony has gone? It's no good blaming the incoming, the fault lies squarely with the enabling governments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 On 01/08/2024 at 17:04, old man said: Where does the law stand, supposed rescue... We are obliged under maritime law and the UNHCR to assist or rescue anyone at sea and all vessels are required to do this, it is also a humanitarian thing to do. You don't ask why you just assist. Cheerio! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 39 minutes ago, henry d said: We are obliged under maritime law and the UNHCR to assist or rescue anyone at sea and all vessels are required to do this, it is also a humanitarian thing to do. You don't ask why you just assist. Cheerio! They should be rescued straight back to France. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 1 hour ago, 12gauge82 said: They should be rescued straight back to France. This ignores that the French Navy are escorting them out into the Channel, so rescue is required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted August 12 Author Report Share Posted August 12 2 hours ago, henry d said: We are obliged under maritime law and the UNHCR to assist or rescue anyone at sea and all vessels are required to do this, it is also a humanitarian thing to do. You don't ask why you just assist. Cheerio! Thanks for the lesson Henry, much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 1 hour ago, Flashman said: This ignores that the French Navy are escorting them out into the Channel, so rescue is required. Then the French navy should be at fault for letting these vessel's set sail in the first place in French water they should have a duty of care to return them from wence they came . Those that temp to jump overboard shall be told you will not be saved if you endanger your life or those around you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted August 12 Author Report Share Posted August 12 9 hours ago, johnphilip said: Then the French navy should be at fault for letting these vessel's set sail in the first place in French water they should have a duty of care to return them from wence they came . Those that temp to jump overboard shall be told you will not be saved if you endanger your life or those around you Their duty of care if they ever had one should maybe have been applied prior to helping them into the boats? The French will never help to stop it for the simple reason they don't want them to stay as they have zero benefit to France. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoli 12 guage Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 12 minutes ago, old man said: Their duty of care if they ever had one should maybe have been applied prior to helping them into the boats? The French will never help to stop it for the simple reason they don't want them to stay as they have zero benefit to France. that's always puzzled me as to why if the Frogs don't rescue them WHY SHOULD WE? AND,why when we venture into Frog waters to do the "rescuing" WHY do we then bring them to Blighty😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 10 hours ago, Zoli 12 guage said: that's always puzzled me as to why if the Frogs don't rescue them WHY SHOULD WE? AND,why when we venture into Frog waters to do the "rescuing" WHY do we then bring them to Blighty😡 As much as I agree we need to stop illegal immigration, allowing people to drown is a bit much. We should rescue them, straight back to a French beach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted August 13 Author Report Share Posted August 13 12 hours ago, Zoli 12 guage said: that's always puzzled me as to why if the Frogs don't rescue them WHY SHOULD WE? AND,why when we venture into Frog waters to do the "rescuing" WHY do we then bring them to Blighty😡 Put a book in your trousers Henry will be enlightening you too?😃😃 I don't know how far over we go or why we go that far? I thought the RNLI had to be tasked (called) to assist? Border force, who knows? I understand and support the rescue at sea protocol but? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoli 12 guage Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 (edited) 7 hours ago, old man said: 😃😃 I understand and support the rescue at sea protocol but? well i don't,for the ones that intentionally put their own lives at risk by "volunteering" and paying to climb into an un sea worthy boat knowing they are on a 22 mile jaunt across the busiest shipping lane in the world. eff 'em,and the same to ones who cross the Med👍 Edited August 13 by Zoli 12 guage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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