Ukraine, Russia, UK and Europe?

[spanj]

On 20/02/2025 at 10:26, NoBodyImportant said:

Not to sound like I hate the rest of the world but I paid over $45,000 USD in taxes last year.  I think Europe should pitch in a little for the defense of Europe. We are struggling over here. 

Absolutely zero relevance. Every working person in every country pays tax. The UK certainly filled US coffers for WW2. I agree Europe should defend itself and pay for it too

[spanj]

On 21/02/2025 at 10:31, London Best said:

Hopefully, he will want the U.K. to be the 51st. State. 
It is likely our best chance for a future.

If you think we are in a bad way you need to travel through some of the US Southern states …….. shocking. Dont know about the other states

[spanj]

1 hour ago, Stonepark said:

Yes they have, USA, UK, France, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Germany, Turkey, to name a few.

The Syria debacle being the latest.

 

Also as per Ukrainian constitution, any of the oblasts could hold a referendum to secede and become independant, they (Donbass etc) and others tried to (Odessa) and Ukraine immediately invaded them with Neo Nazis army battalions.

 

 

Putin is democratically elected by the people of Russia and operates under the Duma's instructions. He is not, nor ever has been a dictator.

Just because you don't like the fact he has 80%+ support of the Russian people doesn't make him a dictator.

What you don't really seem to understand is that Putin is a 'moderate' in Russian terms.....Medelev and a few others for example would have likely started by nuking Kiev and/or Lviv on day 1.

Really, the Russians have a free vote …… enjoys 80% support etc. just because he is the least bad option (sound familiar?) doesn't make him or his actions OK

[London Best]

33 minutes ago, spanj said:

If you think we are in a bad way you need to travel through some of the US Southern states …….. shocking. Dont know about the other states

I have, several times. Most recently six months ago.

[NoBodyImportant]

9 hours ago, Stonepark said:

Yes they have, USA, UK, France, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Germany, Turkey, to name a few.

The Syria debacle being the latest.

 

Also as per Ukrainian constitution, any of the oblasts could hold a referendum to secede and become independant, they (Donbass etc) and others tried to (Odessa) and Ukraine immediately invaded them with Neo Nazis army battalions.

 

 

Putin is democratically elected by the people of Russia and operates under the Duma's instructions. He is not, nor ever has been a dictator.

Just because you don't like the fact he has 80%+ support of the Russian people doesn't make him a dictator.

What you don't really seem to understand is that Putin is a 'moderate' in Russian terms.....Medelev and a few others for example would have likely started by nuking Kiev and/or Lviv on day 1.

This,  you hit the nail on the head.  

[NoBodyImportant]

8 hours ago, spanj said:

Absolutely zero relevance. Every working person in every country pays tax. The UK certainly filled US coffers for WW2. I agree Europe should defend itself and pay for it too

Wrong, you don’t understand lend lease.  Most people do not. America footed the bill.  UK and allies only paid for the stuff they kept after the war.  Any equipment that was destroyed or consumed America did not charge for. Every tank, plane, ship that was destroyed and every bullet that was fired was not charged for. After the war the UK had the option of returning equipment or buying it at 10% of the cost.  Meaning if it cost American a 100 dollars to build the UK could kept it for 10 cent.  Quite frankly the allies could never have afforded repayment of the financial burden if America would have charged them in full.  America was more worried about rebuilding Europe than getting repaid.