one shot paddy Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Hi all, just had a word with a gun dealer regarding sound moderators. i was saying to him i put on my t8 on both my .17 rimfire and my 222 centerfire rifle to what he said are you!! barking!! mad.. WHY i said.. it can BLOWUP the moderator as the powder mix in rimfire rounds is not the same as in centerfire rounds... :look: what do you all think?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 He's the one thats barking mad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Alot of unburnt powder from the .17 can collect in the baffles ,Especially if the barrel is shortened .If the build up is quite significant and you happen to run a rather hot .222 load through it then there is the potential for this unburnt powder to ignite .........One shot paddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA Shaun Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Clean it through between exchanges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Why not just buy a SAK to put on the .17hmr they are only about £30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 'Sound' advice there from Nick. Get a cheap rimfire mod, will save a lot of hassle. A T8 is a big mod for a little .17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salisburykeeper Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 it shouldnt make a difference though, i think your gunsmith might be plugging you to spend a bit more! i think its good practice to keep on top of the cleaning with the moderators though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 For the sake of a 55 Euro SAK mod for your HMR is it worth finding out the hard way? Remember it'll be you pulling the trigger not any of us on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kip270 Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 Alot of unburnt powder from the .17 can collect in the baffles ,Especially if the barrel is shortened .If the build up is quite significant and you happen to run a rather hot .222 load through it then there is the potential for this unburnt powder to ignite .........One shot paddy Yep ive is spot on Get a SAK or a ASE UTRA for the .17 and keep the T8 for the .222, i have done the same thing, i was going to use my T8 on my .17hmr but was strongly advised agaisnt it, for the reason ive has given and i know Jackson rifles do not recomend the use of Reflex mods between CF and RF rifles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one shot paddy Posted December 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 Alot of unburnt powder from the .17 can collect in the baffles ,Especially if the barrel is shortened .If the build up is quite significant and you happen to run a rather hot .222 load through it then there is the potential for this unburnt powder to ignite .........One shot paddy Yep ive is spot on Get a SAK or a ASE UTRA for the .17 and keep the T8 for the .222, i have done the same thing, i was going to use my T8 on my .17hmr but was strongly advised agaisnt it, for the reason ive has given and i know Jackson rifles do not recomend the use of Reflex mods between CF and RF rifles Many thanks for all the info... all i can say is merry christmas and a happy new year to all you shooters out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 i know that a forest ranger has had a T8 blow up on him and as such all forest rangers have been told they are not allowed to use the T8. I'm just waiting for some picture evidence from my mate. My T8 has a hole in it already and its only about a year old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneEye Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 T8s will burst if you don't maintain them well, which means drying them out on a radiator. and spraying inside with loads of WD40 after a trip. After trying centrefire mods for a while, I've decided they're not all they're cracked up to be. The reduction in sound is useful but is still heard for a fair way off - they unbalance your rifle and add to the weight. I just carry ear plugs now for the most part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 my mate had this happen in his sak mod 17 hmr it put the wind up us new pants was in order after that his was like a roman candle going off stuffed the mod u must keep 17 hmr mods clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 my mate had this happen in his sak mod 17 hmr it put the wind up us new pants was in order after that his was like a roman candle going off stuffed the mod u must keep 17 hmr mods clean. Trevor On 2 occasions now i have had a SAK that whistles as a large plume of smoke exits it .......Usually after it's not been used for some time Miffy Has the outer shell finally given way buddy ............That makes two of us now One eye You are most correct .........T8's do need drying out and large amounts of WD40 spraying inside which up until recently something I never bothered doing ,nor I'm sad to say recommended either in fact I was totally the opposite . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodmedod.one Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 T8s will burst if you don't maintain them well, which means drying them out on a radiator. and spraying inside with loads of WD40 after a trip. After trying centrefire mods for a while, I've decided they're not all they're cracked up to be. The reduction in sound is useful but is still heard for a fair way off - they unbalance your rifle and add to the weight. I just carry ear plugs now for the most part. Despite all the "get a T8" advice on here a while back, I went ahead and bought a Wildcat moderator for my .243. There was just something about a sealed tin can that I didn't like. reading the comments about rot problems on here, it seems like I made the right decision. The Wildcat is stainless, fully strippable and massively reduces muzzle flip. I agree about the extra weight, but as I shoot mainly off sticks or on a sand bag, it is not a problem. It makes my Steyr SSG a far nicer rifle to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 I'd my mind set on a T8 a while back until I saw one (or was it a T4, same difference) in a shop. Brand new and rusty inside already. Then Ive had a hole in his. No thank you. I'd rather pay extra and hump a bit more weight for something strippable that won't, or has less of a chance of, blowing up on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 It'd be interesting to know that after stipping a mod on a full bore rifle is the exact POA still achieved ?..........A big plus point for the T8 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodmedod.one Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 It'd be interesting to know that after stipping a mod on a full bore rifle the exact POA is still achieved ..........A big plus point for the T8 . To be honest Ive, I wouldn't trust the POA to stay the same after just removing/replacing the Wildcat, let alone stripping it down. Checking the POA now and again is no big deal to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 i know that a forest ranger has had a T8 blow up on him and as such all forest rangers have been told they are not allowed to use the T8. I'm just waiting for some picture evidence from my mate. My T8 has a hole in it already and its only about a year old That's where the bullet come out (sorry miffy couldn't resist ) :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rabgoat Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 [quote name='kip270' post='423835' date='Dec 23 2007, 12:3 Many thanks for all the info... all i can say is merry christmas and a happy new year to all you shooters out there hello one shot paddy,,i use a SAK on my hmr,does a good job for the money,don't know about exploding mods,best to take his advice and be careful,,,happy new year to you too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anschutz.17hmr Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 buy a wildcat really easy to take apart and clean,mine goes from .17hmr to .222 and no probs,just keep them clean! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Squirrel Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Hi all, just had a word with a gun dealer regarding sound moderators. i was saying to him i put on my t8 on both my .17 rimfire and my 222 centerfire rifle to what he said are you!! barking!! mad.. WHY i said.. it can BLOWUP the moderator as the powder mix in rimfire rounds is not the same as in centerfire rounds... what do you all think?... Sound moderators work by damping sonic pressure created when explosive gases expand faster than the speed of sound, thus slowing down the explosive effect and reducing the amount of noise produced at the muzzle. It makes no difference whether it's a PCP, powder charge or CO2 or even a springer, one moderator will have the same effect on all; it's simple physics. As to safety, it's as safe as the individual behind the trigger. 'Nuff said. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Hi all, just had a word with a gun dealer regarding sound moderators. i was saying to him i put on my t8 on both my .17 rimfire and my 222 centerfire rifle to what he said are you!! barking!! mad.. WHY i said.. it can BLOWUP the moderator as the powder mix in rimfire rounds is not the same as in centerfire rounds... what do you all think?... Sound moderators work by damping sonic pressure created when explosive gases expand faster than the speed of sound, thus slowing down the explosive effect and reducing the amount of noise produced at the muzzle. It makes no difference whether it's a PCP, powder charge or CO2 or even a springer, one moderator will have the same effect on all; it's simple physics. As to safety, it's as safe as the individual behind the trigger. 'Nuff said. :-) Well you sure answered that question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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