markm Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 just out of interest what are your shot birds costing, looking at shoots with less that 600 birds put down in total. If you don't want to say approx what are your returns? Me - Ducks 35% Pheasants - 50% Birds approx £15 per head (game above only) Just to let you know, the land is surrounded by 2 golf courses and a main road so no birds to pull from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 out of 125 phezes and 50 partriges 67 pheasants and 23 partriges in the game book so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millomite Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 £150 for 350 pheasants down. All pigeon and fox control. Roughly 100 in bag so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk shooter Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 (edited) We put down a 1000 birds still DIY though. Each bird has cost approx £18 each. Including today we have shot 341 pheasants So 37.88% return so far with one more driven day and one beaters day left Overall looking at the whole bag which includes, Partridge, Pigeon, Woodcock, Jay & Magpie, we have shot well over 400 bag. Been a good year, but hope to improve next year now we have cover crops going in, which will hold the birds better. SS Edited January 12, 2008 by Suffolk shooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisNicholls Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 I was only thinking about this today funnily enough. We have shot about 50% so far with one day to go so will be slightly better than 50% at the end of the day. The cost per bird? well believe it or not it currently stands at £36.00 per bird shot. I had a feeling it was quite high but not that high, might have to think again for next season and look elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markm Posted January 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 I was only thinking about this today funnily enough. We have shot about 50% so far with one day to go so will be slightly better than 50% at the end of the day. The cost per bird? well believe it or not it currently stands at £36.00 per bird shot. I had a feeling it was quite high but not that high, might have to think again for next season and look elsewhere. Chris do you mean the number you have put down costs 36 quid of what you have hit (I know you said you stand at 50%)? If it is what you have hit then I don't think there is anything you can do about that rather than hit everything that comes over you. Our games days out cost £35 per day, considering we have had bags ranging from 69 down to 14 (and we got 21 on saturday just gone) i don't think its bad, also we have pigeon shooting all year round and deer stalking for those with CF's. How much do your days out cost you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Well I have never dared to add it up. I share a patch with my brother and shoot with a handful of friends four or five times a season on what could be descibed as mini driven days, i.e three standers, two walking guns and two beaters. Just counting the rent, poults and feed each bird has cost us about £19!! We have had 56 pheasants from 150 released and plan one more walk round which should see us over the 40% recovery. Last year we shot 98 pheasants (could have broke 100 but left hens on the last day) from 120 realeased. The main difference between the seasons is that last season our cover crops, kale & triticale, were in great condition. This year the same plots are tired, rat eaten seeded kale, docks and thistle. All good fun though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down South Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 300 pheasants put down this season, should just make 40% return which works out at about £18 per bird shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisNicholls Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 I was only thinking about this today funnily enough. We have shot about 50% so far with one day to go so will be slightly better than 50% at the end of the day. The cost per bird? well believe it or not it currently stands at £36.00 per bird shot. I had a feeling it was quite high but not that high, might have to think again for next season and look elsewhere. Chris do you mean the number you have put down costs 36 quid of what you have hit (I know you said you stand at 50%)? If it is what you have hit then I don't think there is anything you can do about that rather than hit everything that comes over you. Our games days out cost £35 per day, considering we have had bags ranging from 69 down to 14 (and we got 21 on saturday just gone) i don't think its bad, also we have pigeon shooting all year round and deer stalking for those with CF's. How much do your days out cost you? The £36 figure is the current cost for each bird in the bag. If the bag is say 10 pheasants they have cost £360 to shoot, collectively of course. Multiply the cost of membership by the number of guns in the shoot and divide that figure by the total number shot. In my case it comes to £36 per bird, pheasants only. As you so rightly point out the only way to reduce that figure (cost per bird shot) is to get a larger return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markm Posted January 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 I was only thinking about this today funnily enough. We have shot about 50% so far with one day to go so will be slightly better than 50% at the end of the day. The cost per bird? well believe it or not it currently stands at £36.00 per bird shot. I had a feeling it was quite high but not that high, might have to think again for next season and look elsewhere. Chris do you mean the number you have put down costs 36 quid of what you have hit (I know you said you stand at 50%)? If it is what you have hit then I don't think there is anything you can do about that rather than hit everything that comes over you. Our games days out cost £35 per day, considering we have had bags ranging from 69 down to 14 (and we got 21 on saturday just gone) i don't think its bad, also we have pigeon shooting all year round and deer stalking for those with CF's. How much do your days out cost you? The £36 figure is the current cost for each bird in the bag. If the bag is say 10 pheasants they have cost £360 to shoot, collectively of course. Multiply the cost of membership by the number of guns in the shoot and divide that figure by the total number shot. In my case it comes to £36 per bird, pheasants only. As you so rightly point out the only way to reduce that figure (cost per bird shot) is to get a larger return. That does seem expensive and I understand you having to reconsider (maybe) for next year. Thanks for your input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Why is the figure per bird so high even witha 50% recovery rate? I guess that rent contributes to a fair prportion of the price per bird? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markm Posted January 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 I can answer that one for my shoot - per bird - Rent 50%, buying rearing & feeding 50%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisNicholls Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 I can answer that one for my shoot - per bird - Rent 50%, buying rearing & feeding 50%. We also have the cost of cover crops to add to that, we don't scrimp on food either, the food bill was quite high this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 food is more expensive than its been in years. The costs add up, buying the birds is the cheap bit, feeding them planting cover crops and compensating the farmer for these and keeping pens and drinkers maintained always add s to the cost. then give the beaters some beer money and you can see what the commercial shoots charge £25 plus a bird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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