Wax on .22 subsonics

[njc110381]

I bought myself a box of Eley subs yesterday and went about making myself the bullet pouch I was talking about. Anyway, pouch aside (got one made and it works great) I think with all the rolling about most of the wax has rubbed off of the rounds I was using as a measure for the pouch. I figured I'd try removing it from the rest of the bullets.

 

I emptied the rest of the box out on a sheet of kitchen roll, then placed another sheet on top. I then put the complete setup on a pillow and rubbed the top sheet of paper around over the bullets for a minute or so. All the waxy muck has rubbed off on the kitchen roll and the rounds are now slightly greasy but without any of the excess wax that was there before.

 

I thought it was worth saying as it has been mentioned before about using all sorts of fluids etc to clean individual rounds for semi auto use (which sounds like a right pain in the ****). This method seems to work pretty well, but without too much hard work involved! I don't have the gun to try them in yet, but with no visible wax it must at least cut down the amount of muck that will stick to the gun and jam it? You could probably do 100 rounds at a time this way, and 15 mins would have 1000 done

Edited January 20, 2008 by njc110381

[MC]

The only problem with doing that is you are removing the barrel lubricant from the bullet and also destroying the consistency of the rounds.

 

If a box should tip over in my bag they do not get shot at any serious targets, only used for practice.

[dusk2dawn]

I bought myself a box of Eley subs yesterday and went about making myself the bullet pouch I was talking about. Anyway, pouch aside (got one made and it works great) I think with all the rolling about most of the wax has rubbed off of the rounds I was using as a measure for the pouch. I figured I'd try removing it from the rest of the bullets.

 

I emptied the rest of the box out on a sheet of kitchen roll, then placed another sheet on top. I then put the complete setup on a pillow and rubbed the top sheet of paper around over the bullets for a minute or so. All the waxy muck has rubbed off on the kitchen roll and the rounds are now slightly greasy but without any of the excess wax that was there before.

 

I thought it was worth saying as it has been mentioned before about using all sorts of fluids etc to clean individual rounds for semi auto use (which sounds like a right pain in the ****). This method seems to work pretty well, but without too much hard work involved! I don't have the gun to try them in yet, but with no visible wax it must at least cut down the amount of muck that will stick to the gun and jam it? You could probably do 100 rounds at a time this way, and 15 mins would have 1000 done

 

The rounds have been coated by Ely as a lubricant and its this muck, as you decribe it, that keeps the barrel clean, I had a semi and fired alot of Ely subs through it, never once did the rifle jam and I didnt have to clean that often.

 

Imo what you have done is completely wrong, Ely even advise us not to have these rounds loose in the pocket to avoid rubbing off the coating.

 

D2D

[njc110381]

Do they really need that much lube though? I thought barrels were supposed to be clean when used, not full of wax/oil/whatever? How do you win with a semi then? If it clogs up with wax lube and shoots badly if the wax is reduced, surely I'm set for a bit of trouble running my Ruger on subs?!

 

EDIT...Just read the above, oops

Edited January 20, 2008 by njc110381

[Baldrick]

If you think Eley are over-lubed, buy some Lapua .22 subs. They practically swim in lube.

 

I don't get any problems with Eley subs in my .22 - they work perfectly, and the gun never needs de-gunking.

[njc110381]

Oh well, at least .22lr ammo is cheap! Looks like I just messed up 50 rounds, I'll use them for plinking instead. I don't understand why they need lube to run smoothly though?

[Floating Chamber]

Your ammo may be cheap but your rifle probably ain't! You'd be surprised what hides in the corners of your pockets and can adhere to bullet lube. I found swarf in mine and I don't ever go near a machine shop!

[Paul223]

Winchester use a dry wax lube, much less messy that eley.

[Hodmedod.one]

NJC, if you are buying a Ruger 10/22 you will find that it will perform better with Eley subs than any other brand.

Don't rub the lube off them though!!!!!

[hwr]

I prefer the smell of winchester!

[dusk2dawn]

I prefer the smell of winchester!

 

 

No its definately "Eau de Eley" for me, goes perfectly with my body odour :unsure:

 

D2D

[deadeye ive]

NJC, if you are buying a Ruger 10/22 you will find that it will perform better with Eley subs than any other brand.

Don't rub the lube off them though!!!!!

 

:unsure:

 

This is because eley's hp's are more pointed and so load in to the breach better when ejected up from the springloaded mag activated by the blow back operation of recoil .Winchesters hp's on the other hand are flatter and as a consequence catch the edge of the breach and deform slightly .It's also IMO why Winchesters are harder hitting .

 

To echo everybody pervious leave the lube on

[luckytrigger]

NJC, if you are buying a Ruger 10/22 you will find that it will perform better with Eley subs than any other brand.

Don't rub the lube off them though!!!!!

 

Eley subs dont cycle very well at all in my custom 1022 i get a stoppage every other round yet cci and winchester ammo cycles faultlessly..

Edited January 28, 2008 by luckytrigger