SPARKIE Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 last night was on egay when i found a diveing company selling lead shot for ballast cheapish which got me thinking coud i use this in a shotty for reloading so i went down to my local diving shop which is about 150meters down my street and yes they have loads of shot there £4 a kg mint just bought 5kg for £20 the gun shop wants £40 for 7kg tubs and its the same size as no6 shot bonus it seems just as hard as the shop bought stuff so get down ya local divers centre and get some they said they allways have it in stock gonna reload some and try it out on the pigeons tomoz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 last night was on egay when i found a diveing company selling lead shot for ballast cheapish which got me thinking coud i use this in a shotty for reloading so i went down to my local diving shop which is about 150meters down my street and yes they have loads of shot there £4 a kg mint just bought 5kg for £20 the gun shop wants £40 for 7kg tubs and its the same size as no6 shot bonus it seems just as hard as the shop bought stuff so get down ya local divers centre and get some they said they allways have it in stock gonna reload some and try it out on the pigeons tomoz I buy lead shot for £32.00 from a reloading supplier- So no real saving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 last night was on egay when i found a diveing company selling lead shot for ballast cheapish which got me thinking coud i use this in a shotty for reloading so i went down to my local diving shop which is about 150meters down my street and yes they have loads of shot there £4 a kg mint just bought 5kg for £20 the gun shop wants £40 for 7kg tubs and its the same size as no6 shot bonus it seems just as hard as the shop bought stuff so get down ya local divers centre and get some they said they allways have it in stock gonna reload some and try it out on the pigeons tomoz I buy lead shot for £32.00 from a reloading supplier- So no real saving knowing you I also suspect you get it dropped off by orse and cart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 last night was on egay when i found a diveing company selling lead shot for ballast cheapish which got me thinking coud i use this in a shotty for reloading so i went down to my local diving shop which is about 150meters down my street and yes they have loads of shot there £4 a kg mint just bought 5kg for £20 the gun shop wants £40 for 7kg tubs and its the same size as no6 shot bonus it seems just as hard as the shop bought stuff so get down ya local divers centre and get some they said they allways have it in stock gonna reload some and try it out on the pigeons tomoz I buy lead shot for £32.00 from a reloading supplier- So no real saving knowing you I also suspect you get it dropped off by orse and cart Lorry or cart they all easily fall off the back of them when you know which one to stand behind.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogh shooter Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 have fun tomorow buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat 1 Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 last night was on egay when i found a diveing company selling lead shot for ballast cheapish which got me thinking coud i use this in a shotty for reloading so i went down to my local diving shop which is about 150meters down my street and yes they have loads of shot there £4 a kg mint just bought 5kg for £20 the gun shop wants £40 for 7kg tubs and its the same size as no6 shot bonus it seems just as hard as the shop bought stuff so get down ya local divers centre and get some they said they allways have it in stock gonna reload some and try it out on the pigeons tomoz Thanks for the advise Sparkie, will ring around on monday. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 I suspect the difference will be in the alloying. Lead weighting does not need any special properties beyond being heavy, so it will be made from low refined ingots, or even scrap. Re-loading shot is usually an alloy, and has up to 5% other metals in it to give good pattern properties. The alloying achieves higher "crush values" and that limits deformation as it goes out the barrel and chokes. Soft lead tends to flatten a little in the gun, and this causes a lot off loose pellets scattered at the outside of the pattern. These are wasted pellets as there are not enough of them to bring down a quarry or clay. For game, a balance iis needed between softness ( the flattening on impact does help achieve kills) and hardness that helps good effective patterns. 3% antinomy is typical. In competition clay loads, high antinomy content up to 7%, and even nickel plating is used to harden the pellet to give very precise edges to the pattern. Steel, because of its intrinsic hardness, has very good patterns. Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auto culto Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 I've looked at this a few years back being a diver. The main problem is that the shot is not a uniform size and some bits are bb size and others smaller that 9's. I suspect they may be a bit on the soft side also as the shot is made from pure lead without any alloy added as you can carry more weight in your shot belt without adding to bulk thus making it safer as you are less cluttered underwater. I would say though that it should be sufficient for pigeon shooting carts as you can get away with a less refined load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat 1 Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Got 5 kg to try, paid £3 per kg. Reloaded 25 yesterday,B+P Flash hull,32g wad,22grns Green dot,CCI 209 primer,32g of this shot. I never patterned the shells but I shot 15 crows this morning using Beretta extrema 2 with a turkey choke which a friend brought me from the states.Without doubt I killed large crows at between 50 and 60 yards.These crows were dead in the air, so what does that say for the shot?. I intend to buy more of it for the same job.Maybe if I can get the time I will try a few at the paper to see how that goes.I have no idea what these shells would be costing but they would undoubtly be a lot cheaper than factory loads which you would buy to perform like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 ok people wheres the neerest diving shop to me and how many shels can you get out of 1 kilo and will it work out cheaper to reaload than to buy in not **** ways backways thaks all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 and has any one got a shot size table they can post on hear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat 1 Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Take a look in the yellow pages, there should be diving supply companies in there, price around. Take a few hours and read through the threads on this forum and you should get most of the info you need.............http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewforum.php?f=13 all the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEFTY478 Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 how many shels can you get out of 1 kilo and will it work out cheaper to reaload than to buy in not **** ways backwaysthaks all 1kg = 1,000g / 28g load = 35ish @ 32g load = 31ish and has any one got a shot size table they can post on hear Here's one >>clicky<<. There are others, just google "British shot size". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted February 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 well i bought a load and have shot plenty pigeons and crows with then theres no problem with the lead being softer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 i have found some but its only 1-2 mm is this not to small Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 and how many shels can you reaload with 1lb of red dot powder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 i can get 25kg for 72quid deliverd but not including VAT is this a good price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat 1 Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 (edited) Try and get shot that is.10 ins or 22.6 or 7 mm.That is the same as number 6 British shot.You should have approx 300 pellets per oz (28grms).Using red dot be careful of heavier loads, I personally would not go over 30grammes.You can work out how many shells per pound depending on how many grains you use....1grain equals 0.0648 grams.1 gram equals 15.43 grains.one ounce equals 437.5 grains.one pound equals 7000 grains. regards.pat1 Get yourself a set of scales!!!!!!!!!!!!! very important Edited February 23, 2008 by pat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 22.6mm and 7 mm is numbe 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat 1 Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 (edited) Sorry Highseas, got a bit carried away with the two's, ment 2.6 or 2.7mm. (would make a right mess of a little pigeon.) Edited February 23, 2008 by pat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Sam Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 Just for reference my local shop does 7kg for £20. Thats £2.85 / kg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 you wanna post some down to me :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 is that loacal gun shop of diving shop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Sam Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 That will make it a little more pricy lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco you missed another one Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Hi chaps, Taking into account that I'm a complete Donkey on the subject, but is it worth it reloading your own cart for and only Pigeon shooting? How musc will a box will cost you (25 cart.)? I find it very interesting, it as been a while that I think to load my own, any help will be great. Thanks Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.