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The sooner the Gulag is established here the better. These subhuman,unemployed(by choice) copulating,TV watching child abusing smokers will be the first lifted. Maybe you should keep a list of similar retrobates so that when the day comes they can be identified and eliminated much quicker.

I don't smoke,never have but I am not anti smoking to the degree that I would presume to inflict my belief on anyone else. A lot of my friends smoke and what I have seen in recent years is that the vast majority of them don't even smoke in their own houses. This is their own choice and fair play to them. The same applies to them smoking in their cars. Most have a brain and figure out that second hand smoke is dangerous, therefore they won't smoke in their cars if anyone else is present. No draconian law was nescessary. If this law is passed which I think it will how long before it is law that no one can smoke in a car period?Innocent little children and puppies will be forgotten about and another cash cow will have been invented with the usual jobsworths employed to enforce it. As for the anti smoking,tree hugging,bedwetters Give me a genuine chain smoker any day.

Why mess about,ban cigarettes completely. Won't effect me just the millionaire corporate donators.

When will big brother break down your front door and arrest you or worse for smoking in your own house? When will he arrest you or worse for drinking a pint too much ,in his opinion,in the comfort of your own home?etc,etc,etc. Criminalise all everyday activities but not war and mass murder as practised and promoted by these same hypocrites. People should waken up to what is happening to their so-called freedoms, they are quickly being eroded by faceless treehugging a,,holes. Ban lead shot,ban shooting,ban hunting,ban ******* in the woods. Read somewhere about someone who said they came for the Jews but I said nothing because I was not a Jew,then they came for the queers but I said nothing because I was not a queer,then they came for the non Christians but again I said nothing because I was a Christian, then they came for me and there was no one to speak for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. By the way I don't smoke and personally think it is a filthy disgusting habit. But so is war.

Laughed that much when I saw this nearly joined her.

Cheers.♥♥

No doubt you are better qualified to determine the correct sentence than the judges involved as you no doubt have wikipedia as a reference to your "facts". Were you out of short trousers when this episode took place or had you not progressed that far. Maybe you would take a different view if it had been you that had been thrown out of a job putting the walefare of your children at risk. David Wilkie did not deserve what happened to him and those responsible got what they deserved but the government under Thatchers control are just as guilty yet they try and wash their hands of all blame. The poor man was killed doing his job,the innocent here were deliberately murdered because of who they were,there is a difference which you obviously are too blinkered to see. Thankfully I survived both you on the other hand experienced neither.

Strong and determined of that there is no doubt. Making the right decisions, well that will no doubt be a subject for debate for probably the next hundred years. I can see what you are saying and reluctantly agree in some small part,however please,please,please don't ever compare the murdering biggotts who operated here to men who just wanted to work to be able to feed their family's. Scutt,look at the present bunch and the previous rabble who sat in parliament, they will be apologising for generations for the harm they have done both at home and abroad for the foreseeable future,that is if they ever develop a conscience, which will probably be never. As for us here,well basket case springs to mind,run by terrorist's of all shades in Armani suites and six figure saleries.

Have to agree with you there,when the UDA and co tried to cripple the country with their ulster workers strikes,during which they increased their genocidal murder campaign against the civilian nationalist population Thatcher told them if they didn't stop she would withdraw the financial assistance,result ICI,Harland and Wolfe and others withdrew leaving their vast majority unionist workforce redundant. I detest the woman as a politician and as a human being but her only saving grace was she treated everyone with equal distain. Maybe now some of her policies could be reinacted to sort the biggotts who are back on the streets rioting and wrecking.

What a great leader,throwing hundreds of thousands onto the scrapheap for their own good. I hope there is logic there somewhere but I can't see it. No doubt those here who seem to slate the miners are our present day public sector beurocrats,maybe not but their attitude appears to suggest it. Be careful now not to bite the hand that feeds you regardless of right and wrong. Your children must be real proud of their gutless daddies. Scargill may have had his bad points,no one denies that but to try and cannonise an evil b***h who spent her Christmases with the paeophile Saville is a bit much. By her actions we can see the true nature of that beast.and she wasn't on her own which is becoming apparent by the day. My countrymen knew about the evil hag long ago. So instead of apologies the present shower should be on their knees begging for the forgiveness of those whose lives they destroyed.

And what a great state it is in!.

from bitter experience the government have proved that apologies are given after they are dragged kicking and screaming to the alter of truth. Personally I think they are not worth the breath it takes to convey them. If our "betters" were to apologise for all their "mistakes" nothing else would be done. The motto used by government is do what we say and if it works out wrong(as it inevitable does)let someone else sort it in the future, we will be long gone.

Miners thrown out of work,beaten of the streets,whole communities destroyed,all to allow us to prosper with north sea oil. Are people that blind that they can't see how we all benefitted as a result of all that cheap oil. At that time one breadwinner could run the house. Now with the benefit of all that cheap oil two can't manage. Thatcher would have instructed the police and army to shoot the strikers if she had not got her way. One evil b***h. But then probably no worse than posh Dave,nick it all clegg and their side kicks who are "all in this together" with the rest of us,,,,NOT. Hopefully not as many paeodiphiles today.

Read somewhere that 85 of the wealthiest people in the world are worth the same as half of the total population. Wonder if the eugenics pusher Gates is one of the 85?

Choked on my coffee reading this,very funny. Whatever will be next,the recessions over ha,ha.

What makes this smarmy politician so lovable all of a sudden?.There is obviously some alterior motive behind this story. All whistle blowers had better be vary careful in future. This p***k thought being a politician ment he was above the law. The whole story stinks.

Did any of you look up that minger that proposed this?. Jealous cow. Some of the best looking girls in Glasgow are on the game. Long may it continue. Would destroy the football support as well.

No civilian police force should be armed unless the civilian population is armed. A police constable has a right to defend himself and so should the civilian population.Crime in America is much lower than here especially in the open carry states,wonder why?. If you note I have given the police their proper title,constable, not officer which seems to be in vogue of late. Now an armed junta,well thats another matter. I hope the people in the uk dont allow their police to be armed as there is nothing worse looking than a couple of gunslinger lookalikes arresting someones child for kicking a football on the road or some poor drunk urinating up a back alley in the middle of the night. The modern day policeman is not competant to carry a batton never meaning a gun. If they posessed at least a smidging of commom sence then that would be another matter. But why arm them sure the might of the British army and air force and navy are setting up in london for the olympics,there will not be a pickpocket or thug for miles

I was very interested at the start of this thread thinking that I could get a good light for rabbit shooting for twenty or thirty quid. However as the thread progressed I got more lost everytime a new post went up. You two guys obviously know what you are talking about but unfortunatly I dont. I am not electronically minded which yous obviously are. To cut to the chase would it be possible to buy a fully funcional light from one of you.?. Barring this could one of you post a simple list of parts and simple instructions for making one. I know that is what yous are trying but I still cant understand. Light making for dummies is what I really need Also instructions on a good cheap spotting lamp would be great. Yous know the fleecing we get going to buy in shops and I think your expertise is something we could all benefir from Finally I would like to take this oppertunity to thank you both for what seems to be a very worthwile thread which no doubt those brighter (pun) than me can benefit from.Thank You.

What galls me about this and a lot of other matters is that those tasked with speaking up for the average Joe are content sitting on their fat ***** smoking cigars,drinking wine and planning their next driven shoot or grouse shoot. All at our expence. These la dee das dont give a monkies for us ordinary sportsmen. Not for them a pigeon hide or a bit of work with a lurcher,o no. I have spoken to a number of executives of one well known shooting support organisation(BASC) and can only say that from my perspective they were only interested in the plus four brigade. They seem to want things as they were one hundred years ago when the squire shot and the pleb poached. Those on this forum who cannot see what is happening are in for a shock. The mafia were renouned for forcing people to pay for their rights. Let those who want a licence pay for it.Their wants will soon change.

I must agree with you on this one mate. Then again I dont think the security forces were the only ones targeted in the past or am I missing something here?. There have been of late a few threats from various quarters and I for one will not condone one threat from one thug over any other.Those types of people deserve nothing but disgust from everyone. But we are getting away from the main point. Us sportsmen are being brought into this whole thing and are being made to pay for a service which we have a right to. We as usual are easy targets for the powers that be to fleece. BASC and other organisations seem content to take the fools money in return for hand wringing and excuses. No matter how you play it an increase in the fee is not justified. With technology the fee should be reduced instead of being increased. Some may announce that 120 pounds or whatever is nothing,all I say is bully to them. Someone with more insight than I should investigate this move and I think they will discover there is more to it than meets the eye. No doubt there is some entity making a profit out of it all at our expence. I know it will not be done but if every shooter complained to their individual over paid MLA this whole epesode could be resolved to our satisfaction. This is a money making scheme,nothing more nothing less. The more the ordinary pleb pays the more there is left for our masters on the hill.

The Eaton boys will have no more to say about the ban than you or I. You all seem to think that what we want matters. We are now seeing the benefits of living under the dictatorship of Europe and when the powers, that you nor I voted in, decide to ban lead it will be done and you can go to pot. They are already half way there with the ban over wetlands and wildfowl. This was just a tester to see what reaction they would get. Thanks to the inaction of our paid for representatives the ban was put in place like the next one will be.This was done with no credable evidence that there was any harm in using lead shot. Our over paid representatives sat on their useless behinds and allowed this to happen. All the above posts seem to think that banning lead means shooting steel. This is not the case but steel is the one metal which would be affordable to the average Joe. The powers that be dont give two damms for the average Joe or if he can afford to shoot or not.They would prefer that us plebs didnt shoot at all,and one way to achieve this would be to leave shooting too expensive for the majority of the workers(slaves). The royals are all big followers of shooting but I dont recall any of them speaking out against this present threat to our sport,no doubt ban or not they will continue to use lead.

Bad advice is sometimes worse than none. You will need to contact firearms branch PSNI for a visitors permit. Ryan air or flybe do not transport firearms under any circumstances,Air lingus and easy jet do. If you sail you must inform the ferry operator when boarding.If you intend to shoot in the Irish Republic you will need another permit issued by the Guardi and have a european firearms pass.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/694673-How-to-instructions-for-making-a-knife Google it there are hundreds of sites with instructions and forums. Pat