Hawkeyedavey Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 I am looking for another semi auto. I am willing to spend £800 Has anyone shot with a BENELLI MANCINO game 28'' 12g ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 I am not sure what model it was, but I have shot Benelli 12 bores in the US, dove shooting and I was very impressed. These guns were supplied by the Shooting Plantation and were used almost on a daily basis. The guns were "tight", swung well and recycled cartridges better than my old Beretta 303. I also believe they are easier to clean, than most autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Another thing to consider hawkeye is they wont let you have any parts if it goes wrong. Been waiting 3 months for a £3-00 spring that they have in stock at the importers! LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeyedavey Posted July 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Thanks for the info lads. It worries me when i here that you have problems with getting spare parts. Ishoot with a FABARM EUROLION 2, i had to get a spring replaced last year and that took 6 weeks to arrive. :< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 As much as I love my Nova Pump, I have no option but to strongly recommend that you do not buy a Bennelli. If it goes wrong they will not let you have the parts. LB. Thoroughly ******g ****** off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeyedavey Posted July 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Thanks for your thoughts LB. I had sort of made my mind up already not to buy a Banelli. What do you think is the best semi auto on the market for £800 (12g). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 What do you think is the best semi auto on the market for £800 (12g). Only one answer to that question. Beretta 391 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 I agree with ernyha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeyedavey Posted July 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Thanks for your reply ernyha. By the sound of it you shoot with a Beretta 391. I have noticed by alot of the replies on PW, that Beretta's will cycle any cartridge you choose to put through them I have had some problems cycling loads through my Fabarm. I understand that some loads that are light may not cycle due to low gas emissions The problem is i normaly shoot Gamebore Clear Pigeon 30g loads and when i am having a good day in the hide. Like i had a week on Sunday. The gun gammed on me twice. It has also jammed on me when i have been shooting clays. :< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 391's will cycle anything from 2.5" 24g skeet loads to 3" mag 57g AAA's. Most of the berretas will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patsmash Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 i have 2 391s a 28" sporter and the 28" syn in my opinion they are the best . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeyedavey Posted July 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Thanks lads A Beretta it is then. I will keep you posted about what i buy I will part ex the Fabarm for a over & under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Hawkeye Dave, here is a update on Beechwood Accesories who are the official importers of Benelli and Beretta. Two weeks ago I was told they had my ejector spring in and to send them £3-00 in postage stamps to recieve the spring. Phoned Monday to see where it was as I did not recieve it through snail mail. Was told they will get back to me. So I phoned today to see what was occuring, then was told they have not got a spring but would get me one. I replied ' would I get it this year' I know it was sarcastic, but after 3 months, with a gun 7 months old, I could have let rip! So, if you get a Beretta, and I know they are very, very reliable, consider the conduct of their importers. Good luck LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeyedavey Posted July 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Thanks for your reply LB Ye i will give it a great deal of thought I was thinking of getting a Beretta from AVALON GUNS of street in Somerset or nearer to home at Minsterley Ranges. I also shoot left handed, that can be a problem while buying a gun at times :< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 I also shoot left handed, that can be a problem while buying a gun at times :< The Beretta 391 is easily adapted to a left handed shooter. The shims between the stock and receiver are reversible to give cast on or cast off. Also the safety catch is easily changed round from the right side to the left. My son in law is left handed and when he bought a 391, we converted it over from right configuration to left in 15 minutes. I used to alternate my pigeon shooting between my Browning 425 o/u and my 391 but now it is always the auto and i don't think it will be long before the 425 will be seen in the "For sale" forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greylag70 Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Sound like you guys know your guns. I'm looking for something in the £300-£500 price range semi auto. But I do quite a lot of Wildfowling aswell so could do with a 3 inch cartridge capacity but with a choke that will allow Steel instead of lead. Don't mind a second hand one. Tried my old man's Breeda and once I got used to it I had a great time. Any suggestions ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Am I right in thinking you have a nova pump and if so where did you buy it from,also I would be interested on your opinion please of it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 I also shoot left handed, that can be a problem while buying a gun at times :< The Beretta 391 is easily adapted to a left handed shooter. The shims between the stock and receiver are reversible to give cast on or cast off. Also the safety catch is easily changed round from the right side to the left. My son in law is left handed and when he bought a 391, we converted it over from right configuration to left in 15 minutes. I used to alternate my pigeon shooting between my Browning 425 o/u and my 391 but now it is always the auto and i don't think it will be long before the 425 will be seen in the "For sale" forum. THankyou Hawkeyedavey for bringing this up. I was considering buying a benelli, but after reading these posts I think I will go for the Beretta 391. Tnx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeboy Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 I'd take the Benelli over the Beretta every time. The chances of it breaking are extremely slim. If you are dealing with Beechwood then it will take a month of Sundays as beechwood are no longer the importers, GMK are now the people to deal with and you shouldn't have a problem with them. Beechwood were hopeless thats why GMK now have the business. The Mancino I believe is very similar to the Montefeltro (although all the benellis are virtually the same except for the SBEII and the Supersport which have 2 piece recievers) It will be lighter than the Beretta, slimmer, much quicker and easier to clean. It will also probably go 800/1000 rounds without cleaning (once properly broken in) It is also a dedicated left hander (the Montefeltro, SBEs, and M2 are also available left hand) the beretta can have cast put on for a lefty with shims but the empties will still eject on the wrong side for a lefty. The Monte is also similarly priced to the Mancino. The Beretta may just have the edge if you want to shoot very light shells (less than an ounce) as the gas op generally cycles light loads more effectively. My Montefeltro shoot 1oz with no problems I've been shooting my Benelli almost exclusively for 2 years for everything, game, clays etc with no jams or failures to fire. Fantastic bird shooting guns. Most of the Benellis come with shims to customise fit. Leeboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholiath Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 I am looking for another semi auto. I am willing to spend ?800 Has anyone shot with a BENELLI MANCINO game 28'' 12g ? I have shot with a benelli mancino for 5 years it is a dedicated left hander, i have never had it not cycle a cartridge. i have put cartridges fron 28g to 56g with no problems, and they are a lot easier to clean than gas operated semis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckytrigger Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 i have 2 391s a 28" sporter and the 28" syn in my opinion they are the best . I'll second that. Mine cycles anything i put through it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Another vote for Benelli from me, I have a Mancino after having owned 3 x Beretta Semis and its a better gun. Like has been said GMK now distribute them so no worries over spares not that I have ever needed one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 the benelli is a great gun in terms of reliability and simplicity when cleaning, but to my mind there are a few drawbacks concerning them. they are as follows: 1-as mentioned by lurcherboy, they are not highly supportive when it comes to parts and service 2-the stocks are too short for me. the beretta 391 guns come with two recoil pads and are longer. the benelli straight out of the box is just right for a circus midget. 3-the lowest spec load for the benelli is 1 1/8 oz lead and 3 draims of powder. they are not completely reliable shooting light target loads. the beretta will handle just about anything. they are easy and quick to clean and with the right ammo very reliable. and yes most of the time butt stocks can be lengthened with recoil pads and spacers. p.s. i like my beretta 391 black synthetic and so far it has been reliable with all kinds of loads, but it is a bast!@d to thoroughly clean. you don't have to clean it that much and i generally just wipe it down and put it up. but when it gets really dirty or if i am caught in the rain it genuinely takes about a solid hour for a thorough cleaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 the benelli is a great gun in terms of reliability and simplicity when cleaning, but to my mind there are a few drawbacks concerning them. they are as follows: 1-as mentioned by lurcherboy, they are not highly supportive when it comes to parts and service 2-the stocks are too short for me. the beretta 391 guns come with two recoil pads and are longer. the benelli straight out of the box is just right for a circus midget. 3-the lowest spec load for the benelli is 1 1/8 oz lead and 3 draims of powder. they are not completely reliable shooting light target loads. the beretta will handle just about anything. they are easy and quick to clean and with the right ammo very reliable. and yes most of the time butt stocks can be lengthened with recoil pads and spacers. p.s. i like my beretta 391 black synthetic and so far it has been reliable with all kinds of loads, but it is a bast!@d to thoroughly clean. you don't have to clean it that much and i generally just wipe it down and put it up. but when it gets really dirty or if i am caught in the rain it genuinely takes about a solid hour for a thorough cleaning. Now I am really stuck I want to go for benelli as they a true left handed and easier to clean. beretta have always been a favorite for years but recently I am starting to like benelli. Benelli :unsure: beretta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeboy Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 the benelli is a great gun in terms of reliability and simplicity when cleaning, but to my mind there are a few drawbacks concerning them. they are as follows: 1-as mentioned by lurcherboy, they are not highly supportive when it comes to parts and service 2-the stocks are too short for me. the beretta 391 guns come with two recoil pads and are longer. the benelli straight out of the box is just right for a circus midget. 3-the lowest spec load for the benelli is 1 1/8 oz lead and 3 draims of powder. they are not completely reliable shooting light target loads. the beretta will handle just about anything. they are easy and quick to clean and with the right ammo very reliable. and yes most of the time butt stocks can be lengthened with recoil pads and spacers. p.s. i like my beretta 391 black synthetic and so far it has been reliable with all kinds of loads, but it is a bast!@d to thoroughly clean. you don't have to clean it that much and i generally just wipe it down and put it up. but when it gets really dirty or if i am caught in the rain it genuinely takes about a solid hour for a thorough cleaning. Now I am really stuck I want to go for benelli as they a true left handed and easier to clean. beretta have always been a favorite for years but recently I am starting to like benelli. Benelli :unsure: beretta Mate, do it you wont regret it. My silver pigeon III hasn't been out of the safe for over a year ! I love my Benelli. It takes about 10 mins tops to clean it, even if you take out the trigger group. I have put 1000 rounds through my Montefeltro before cleaning it. Even then it cycled perfectly and when you do go to clean it you will find its not even close to being as dirty as a gas operated gun that has had 200 shots through it. Its worth breaking in any semi auto. I shot a slab of 1 1/8oz / 32g through mine when I first got it and I find it shoots 1oz / 28g no problems. Haven't tried anything lighter as I have no need but I wouldn't be surprised if it cycles fast lighter loads. Some people advise shooting heavier loads to break a gun in but you will find 1 1/8oz will do it. Leeboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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