HunterS410 Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Well went to about 12 farms round my area today and every single 1 said NO or we have got some 1 whys it so hard 2 get shooting permission ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 The simple answer is not everyone wants a stranger on their land with a loaded firearm. Don't give up. FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ91 Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 i had the same prblem mate but then spoke to a famley friend who asked his friend if i could shoot on his farm and got it now i have 4 farms thanks to this one farmer who asked his friends if i could shoot there vermin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterS410 Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 The simple answer is not everyone wants a stranger on their land with a loaded firearm. Don't give up. FM very true but you dont ask you dont get right ? and i use a 22 air rifle i had the same prblem mate but then spoke to a famley friend who asked his friend if i could shoot on his farm and got it now i have 4 farms thanks to this one farmer who asked his friends if i could shoot there vermin thats good then ............. but i dont have any friends that have farms other wise i would have land but i dont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ91 Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 The simple answer is not everyone wants a stranger on their land with a loaded firearm. Don't give up. FM very true but you dont ask you dont get right ? and i use a 22 air rifle a air rifle is still a firear i had the same prblem mate but then spoke to a famley friend who asked his friend if i could shoot on his farm and got it now i have 4 farms thanks to this one farmer who asked his friends if i could shoot there vermin thats good then ............. but i dont have any friends that have farms other wise i would have land :yahoo: but i dont make some new friends lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterS410 Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 make some new friends lol not that easy LOL (with farmers) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 I thinkt that in the eyes of the law a .22 air rifle is a firearm. FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterS410 Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 I thinkt that in the eyes of the law a .22 air rifle is a firearm. FM true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rec-baller Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 just a question, 410 how old are you ?? in the respect of--if you are only 15/16 people don,t like young uns walking about on there land with guns/ irrespective of either fire arms or air rifle shaun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterS410 Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 just a question, 410how old are you ?? in the respect of--if you are only 15/16 people don,t like young uns walking about on there land with guns/ irrespective of either fire arms or air rifle shaun im 23 mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rec-baller Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 you should be o-k at 23, so i do,nt know why youre not getting any land, i work in the building trade so i talk to a lot of fellow shooters everyday, i know land is hard to get sometimes, im from chorley and have 4 farms and 2 golf courses to shoot-BUT it took time and a lot of hard work/persusion to get the land !! keep trying , one day someone will say YES ( ive had plenty of no,s) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterS410 Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 you should be o-k at 23, so i do,nt know why youre not getting any land, i work in the building trade so i talk to a lot of fellow shooters everyday, i know land is hard to get sometimes, im from chorley and have 4 farms and 2 golf courses to shoot-BUT it took time and a lot of hard work/persusion to get the land !!keep trying , one day someone will say YES ( ive had plenty of no,s) you not fancy taking me on a shoot mate ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ91 Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 you not fancy taking me on a shoot mate ? uv got to try one thing a shooting friend always says to me if you dont ask you dont get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 there is a section on here with a letter already worded asking about permissions to send to farmers/ landowners. get the yellow pages, and send a copy to all the farmers in the area, being polite as poss with it. you never know what you might get. im going to do it myself this week, as mine is taking its time getting sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 I was talking to a farmer friend the other day, when a guy, a stranger, came up to him and told (not asked) him; "There's a lot of pigeons on the field over there, I'll come and shoot them for you". Upon being told that there were were regulars who shot on the farm, the guy became most indignant, to the point of aggression, his attitude was that he was doing the farmer a favour, and that he should be grateful that someone would shoot the pigeons for him. I'm not suggesting that this is how you personally approach farmers, but I have seen this attitude on this forum, and I have never known any shooting obtained by it yet. There are more shooting men than there are farms, and if you want to get permission you are going to have to offer the farmer something in return to make him interested, help during the harvest, help with repairs on vehicles, painting his house, whatever your skills are, offer them. People pay to shoot pigeons remember. Do what Martin suggests, as a lead in, but follow the letter up with a visit, and not whilst he is eating his dinner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radio1ham Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 if you got ferrets try asking them if you can go ferretting do that for a while always offer the farmer a choice of the rabbits offer to clean them for him then when you have been ferretting for a while the farmer start to know you a lot more and once you have gained their trust maybe then ask them if maybe someday you can go on with a gun and you may get a supprise they will most likely say YES (would you want a total stranger with a firearm, who you dont know from adam walking around your land if you had any with crops or live stock on it i dare say i would be duvious as to wether to let a total stranger on ,ask your self this question see it from their side ) hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamezBond Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 I know its very hard to get a permission. you simply have to keep trying. I got my first permission i think after trying at least 30 or so. But keep at it, as this is the only way. Write to them, and even send a SAE envelop with your letter for them to reply. you can send a simple written permission form to them, to be filled and returned (already available online, if you dont find one, let me know, and I can copy paste it for you). If they say yes, then you can go around to meet them, and dress sort of smart so they know that you are a decent bloke (or a gal). You can wear your camo stuff when you go shooting but I suggest not to wear camo stuff when meeting them first time. Many other very wise suggestions here already like offering to help the farmer to pusuade them etc. some advice on top from me, is that even if they say yes without you having to pursuade them this way, still offer them your skills and services whatever your expertise may be. This is to kind of return their favour even if they didnt ask for any help. It will help you develop a good relationship with them for the future, and hopefully get you even more permissions. Finally, I can see from your location, you are a bit far from me, but if you were any closer to me, or are down this way by any chance, you are more than welcome to join me on a weekend to go shooting on my permission. Now here is an offer you wont get every day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterS410 Posted April 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Thanks all ill take on what every 1 has said ! and the people who offer me to come on there shoots THANKS ! but it seems that you are all to far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 (edited) I know its very hard to get a permission. you simply have to keep trying. I got my first permission i think after trying at least 30 or so. But keep at it, as this is the only way. Write to them, and even send a SAE envelop with your letter for them to reply. you can send a simple written permission form to them, to be filled and returned (already available online, if you dont find one, let me know, and I can copy paste it for you). If they say yes, then you can go around to meet them, and dress sort of smart so they know that you are a decent bloke (or a gal). You can wear your camo stuff when you go shooting but I suggest not to wear camo stuff when meeting them first time. Many other very wise suggestions here already like offering to help the farmer to pusuade them etc. some advice on top from me, is that even if they say yes without you having to pursuade them this way, still offer them your skills and services whatever your expertise may be. This is to kind of return their favour even if they didnt ask for any help. It will help you develop a good relationship with them for the future, and hopefully get you even more permissions. Finally, I can see from your location, you are a bit far from me, but if you were any closer to me, or are down this way by any chance, you are more than welcome to join me on a weekend to go shooting on my permission. Now here is an offer you wont get every day Lots of sound advice there. I'd say get some cards printed with your details. Get insured if you aren't already. Don't be pushy, but offer them the card as you leave... just in case. And above all, don't get disheartened. I'd almost given up on a permission as It was just pigeon shooting in sheds, but a casual text to the farmer turned it into a 400 acre rabbit infested paradise! Don't give up. Be confident but not cocky, but above all, polite and professional. Good luck. Edited April 29, 2008 by humperdingle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterS410 Posted April 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 I know its very hard to get a permission. you simply have to keep trying. I got my first permission i think after trying at least 30 or so. But keep at it, as this is the only way. Write to them, and even send a SAE envelop with your letter for them to reply. you can send a simple written permission form to them, to be filled and returned (already available online, if you dont find one, let me know, and I can copy paste it for you). If they say yes, then you can go around to meet them, and dress sort of smart so they know that you are a decent bloke (or a gal). You can wear your camo stuff when you go shooting but I suggest not to wear camo stuff when meeting them first time. Many other very wise suggestions here already like offering to help the farmer to pusuade them etc. some advice on top from me, is that even if they say yes without you having to pursuade them this way, still offer them your skills and services whatever your expertise may be. This is to kind of return their favour even if they didnt ask for any help. It will help you develop a good relationship with them for the future, and hopefully get you even more permissions. Finally, I can see from your location, you are a bit far from me, but if you were any closer to me, or are down this way by any chance, you are more than welcome to join me on a weekend to go shooting on my permission. Now here is an offer you wont get every day Lots of sound advice there. I'd say get some cards printed with your details. Get insured if you aren't already. Don't be pushy, but offer them the card as you leave... just in case. And above all, don't get disheartened. I'd almost given up on a permission as It was just pigeon shooting in sheds, but a casual text to the farmer turned it into a 400 acre rabbit infested paradise! Don't give up. Be confident but not cocky, but above all, polite and professional. Good luck. hi mate i wont give up and im insured with BASC i have slips printed but still no joy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadShotHoncho Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 I admit that no-one really likes the idea of a stranger who turns up or rings up walking around with a loaded gun. But i also think that although air-rifles are great and are great for specialised hunting in areas that are no good for firearms or shottie is more than often good for air-rifles but sometimes farmers see the air rifle as a boys toy. They accept the help of shotties and firearms shooters but sometimes see airgun hunters as being not good enough for firearms or shotties. Keep on trying, HSH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevematthews79 Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 THe first permission is the hardest, but once you have the first others should follow. I used to shoot on a farm, and focussed on his rabbit problem, and after making a dent in them with ferrets and the air rifle, I mentioned that the rabbits were wising up and running into neighbouring farms. As it is illegal to allow your your pellet to leave your boundaries of permission land, I asked if he could speak to the neighbouring farms so I could shoot the rabbits on their land. He was happy to return the favour (I'd dented his rabbit population) and asked his friends who owned the neighbouring land (farmers are a close knit group) and my permission trebled over a few weeks. Treat your request for permission as a job interview and things should fall into place given time. The obvious thing after getting permission is to be polite and drop of a bottle/crate of the farmers favourite tipple at Christmas to keep him happy. Good luck with your shooting. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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