Fleabag Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 (edited) Dave g and I went for a lamp last night, took the sako with the hmr fitted, trouble was Dave had fitted a home made moderator on the end of it. Just a tad bit noisy me thinks and so did the farmer who didnt recognise the sound and thought it was a poacher with a shotgun, as we made our way back to the car we saw a car behind ours lights out, next thing two surprisingly polite officers ask who we are and told us the farmer called them. next thing a x5 pulls up with two very large armed officers, ello ello whats going off er then, not really, they were actually very articulate and once they had checked Dave's gun stood and spoke to us for quite some time, any way we got talking about the heckler&koch weapon they use and showed me the .223 ammo, they weren't brass cases though and they said the rounds are blue printed and soft tops. Any body now what they are. Edited May 14, 2008 by Fleabag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 In the bin at Bisley I found some .223 cases that were blue plastic, I had no idea such things existed but there you go. No good for reloading though I would have though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InGen Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 (edited) were they like the round on the end http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/infantr...556mm_ammo.html or like one of these Edited May 12, 2008 by InGen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleabag Posted May 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 were they like the round on the end http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/infantr...556mm_ammo.htmlor like one of these no looked like alloy, or silver, but was under street light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InGen Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 are they more like this only not in a belt lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleabag Posted May 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 are they more like this only not in a belt lol no, they look nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 In the bin at Bisley I found some .223 cases that were blue plastic, I had no idea such things existed but there you go.No good for reloading though I would have though or this; (Blanks) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleabag Posted May 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 In the bin at Bisley I found some .223 cases that were blue plastic, I had no idea such things existed but there you go.No good for reloading though I would have though or this; (Blanks) found them. http://www.policeone.com/police-products/f...ies/ammunition/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InGen Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 (edited) blue there like stainless steel lol Edited May 12, 2008 by InGen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Like this maybe?; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InGen Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 (edited) on the site link the pictures rotate is it this one or these ones Edited May 12, 2008 by InGen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleabag Posted May 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 on the site link the pictures rotate is it this one or these ones top ones, think he said they were federal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m862.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InGen Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 (edited) hum you should have asked for a few there http://www.winchester.com/lawenforcement/c...g==&type=13 all the info i think Edited May 12, 2008 by InGen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Yer - called the landowner today, he'd lost my number. We've arranged I call him first in future. It was a real calm night so I guess the noise sounded louder than I thought. A sheep bolted and hurt itself so bad it's been destroyed so that's £30 I owe the guy, they're a rare breed apparently. It'll give me a good reason to chat with him again, drop off a couple of cards and ask him to try and sort me out with his neighbours too. Plod were good as gold - jokingly suggesting we might like to clear some bunnies behind Leicester force HQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Dave g and I went for a lamp last night, took the sako with the hmr fitted, trouble was Dave had fitted a home made moderator on the end of it. Just a tad bit noisy me thinks and so did the farmer who didnt recognise the sound and thought it was a poacher with a shotgun, as we made our way back to the car we saw a car behind ours lights out, next thing two surprisingly polite officers ask who we are and told us the farmer called them. next thing a x5 pulls up with two very large armed officers, ello ello whats going off er then, not really, they were actually very articulate and once they had checked Dave's gun stood and spoke to us for quite some time, any way we got talking about the heckler&cosh weapon they use and showed me the .223 ammo, they weren't brass cases though and they said the rounds are blue printed and soft tops. Any body now what they are. Mmmmm a number of things wrong here and I’m finding it hard to keep my mouth shut. Owns a Sako (quad?) yet puts a ‘home made’ mod on it??? JHC why? To save a quid or two? No doubt it’s not even proofed. Goes out lamping with a rifle/s without calling anyone beforehand to warn them you’ll be out AND then a sheep gets hurt. Sure the farmer wants to see you. Sure it’s not to say ‘don’t bother coming anymore’ Would I want you on my land...no way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Dave g and I went for a lamp last night, took the sako with the hmr fitted, trouble was Dave had fitted a home made moderator on the end of it. Just a tad bit noisy me thinks and so did the farmer who didnt recognise the sound and thought it was a poacher with a shotgun, as we made our way back to the car we saw a car behind ours lights out, next thing two surprisingly polite officers ask who we are and told us the farmer called them. next thing a x5 pulls up with two very large armed officers, ello ello whats going off er then, not really, they were actually very articulate and once they had checked Dave's gun stood and spoke to us for quite some time, any way we got talking about the heckler&cosh weapon they use and showed me the .223 ammo, they weren't brass cases though and they said the rounds are blue printed and soft tops. Any body now what they are. Mmmmm a number of things wrong here and I’m finding it hard to keep my mouth shut. Owns a Sako (quad?) yet puts a ‘home made’ mod on it??? JHC why? To save a quid or two? No doubt it’s not even proofed. Goes out lamping with a rifle/s without calling anyone beforehand to warn them you’ll be out AND then a sheep gets hurt. Sure the farmer wants to see you. Sure it’s not to say ‘don’t bother coming anymore’ Would I want you on my land...no way! Hmm, add to that the fact that the Heckler and Koch MP5 used by the British Police is not 223 but 9mm parabellum, and you have to start to wonder....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 were they like the round on the end http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/infantr...556mm_ammo.htmlor like one of these Those were the ones I saw at Bisley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandersj89 Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 If it is a rare breed sheep it will be a few quid more than £30, and if it is a Ram it could be a lot more than £30. Do you know what breed it was and how did it injure itself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleabag Posted May 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Dave g and I went for a lamp last night, took the sako with the hmr fitted, trouble was Dave had fitted a home made moderator on the end of it. Just a tad bit noisy me thinks and so did the farmer who didnt recognise the sound and thought it was a poacher with a shotgun, as we made our way back to the car we saw a car behind ours lights out, next thing two surprisingly polite officers ask who we are and told us the farmer called them. next thing a x5 pulls up with two very large armed officers, ello ello whats going off er then, not really, they were actually very articulate and once they had checked Dave's gun stood and spoke to us for quite some time, any way we got talking about the heckler&cosh weapon they use and showed me the .223 ammo, they weren't brass cases though and they said the rounds are blue printed and soft tops. Any body now what they are. Mmmmm a number of things wrong here and I’m finding it hard to keep my mouth shut. Owns a Sako (quad?) yet puts a ‘home made’ mod on it??? JHC why? To save a quid or two? No doubt it’s not even proofed. Goes out lamping with a rifle/s without calling anyone beforehand to warn them you’ll be out AND then a sheep gets hurt. Sure the farmer wants to see you. Sure it’s not to say ‘don’t bother coming anymore’ Would I want you on my land...no way! Hmm, add to that the fact that the Heckler and Koch MP5 used by the British Police is not 223 but 9mm parabellum, and you have to start to wonder....? What I meant was whilst we were talking about my 223 and what they used, they showed me there ten round mag with 223 in it, nothing mysterious there bob. iam sure other shooters have unknowingly scared horses or sheep, even a quite rifle will get the horse snorting. Sad about the sheep but it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 its very unusual to scare a sheep to the point it injures itself, I'd wonder if you are ending up a scapegoat for something else. But something needs to change if you haven't already lost the permission, farmers hate being scared at night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Dave g and I went for a lamp last night, took the sako with the hmr fitted, trouble was Dave had fitted a home made moderator on the end of it. Just a tad bit noisy me thinks and so did the farmer who didnt recognise the sound and thought it was a poacher with a shotgun, as we made our way back to the car we saw a car behind ours lights out, next thing two surprisingly polite officers ask who we are and told us the farmer called them. next thing a x5 pulls up with two very large armed officers, ello ello whats going off er then, not really, they were actually very articulate and once they had checked Dave's gun stood and spoke to us for quite some time, any way we got talking about the heckler&cosh weapon they use and showed me the .223 ammo, they weren't brass cases though and they said the rounds are blue printed and soft tops. Any body now what they are. Mmmmm a number of things wrong here and I’m finding it hard to keep my mouth shut. Owns a Sako (quad?) yet puts a ‘home made’ mod on it??? JHC why? To save a quid or two? No doubt it’s not even proofed. Goes out lamping with a rifle/s without calling anyone beforehand to warn them you’ll be out AND then a sheep gets hurt. Sure the farmer wants to see you. Sure it’s not to say ‘don’t bother coming anymore’ Would I want you on my land...no way! Hmm, add to that the fact that the Heckler and Koch MP5 used by the British Police is not 223 but 9mm parabellum, and you have to start to wonder....? What I meant was whilst we were talking about my 223 and what they used, they showed me there ten round mag with 223 in it, nothing mysterious there bob. iam sure other shooters have unknowingly scared horses or sheep, even a quite rifle will get the horse snorting. Sad about the sheep but it happens. im not following this? where was the .223 mag from? it cant be from the mp5... chambered 9mm, 10mm and 40s+w only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleabag Posted May 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Dave g and I went for a lamp last night, took the sako with the hmr fitted, trouble was Dave had fitted a home made moderator on the end of it. Just a tad bit noisy me thinks and so did the farmer who didnt recognise the sound and thought it was a poacher with a shotgun, as we made our way back to the car we saw a car behind ours lights out, next thing two surprisingly polite officers ask who we are and told us the farmer called them. next thing a x5 pulls up with two very large armed officers, ello ello whats going off er then, not really, they were actually very articulate and once they had checked Dave's gun stood and spoke to us for quite some time, any way we got talking about the heckler&cosh weapon they use and showed me the .223 ammo, they weren't brass cases though and they said the rounds are blue printed and soft tops. Any body now what they are. Mmmmm a number of things wrong here and I’m finding it hard to keep my mouth shut. Owns a Sako (quad?) yet puts a ‘home made’ mod on it??? JHC why? To save a quid or two? No doubt it’s not even proofed. Goes out lamping with a rifle/s without calling anyone beforehand to warn them you’ll be out AND then a sheep gets hurt. Sure the farmer wants to see you. Sure it’s not to say ‘don’t bother coming anymore’ Would I want you on my land...no way! Hmm, add to that the fact that the Heckler and Koch MP5 used by the British Police is not 223 but 9mm parabellum, and you have to start to wonder....? What I meant was whilst we were talking about my 223 and what they used, they showed me there ten round mag with 223 in it, nothing mysterious there bob. iam sure other shooters have unknowingly scared horses or sheep, even a quite rifle will get the horse snorting. Sad about the sheep but it happens. im not following this? where was the .223 mag from? it cant be from the mp5... chambered 9mm, 10mm and 40s+w only. This is getting harder to explain each time. we were talking away passing the time talking about guns rifles taser etc etc, from his jacket he produced a black mag almost the same as my Remington he said we use these soft pointed 223 in our rifle and they are blue printed for them? what he meant i don't now. i think he also said they use a Remington 700. we did not stand there questioning them just general banter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleabag Posted May 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 its very unusual to scare a sheep to the point it injures itself, I'd wonder if you are ending up a scapegoat for something else. But something needs to change if you haven't already lost the permission, farmers hate being scared at night Yes Dave spoke to the farmer who said don't worry about the sheep, saying that they were just moving around the field and we didnt see any thing that troubled us at the time, certainly not any signs as to an injured sheep. the fact that one of maybe 50 or so got injured is a bit mysterious. the farmer also said no need to call him prior to shooting. nun the less i think Dave g will next time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InGen Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 what i find strange is these people say it cant be true 223 dont fit in MP5 well they dont only use MP5's they use a verity of firearms so what fleabag says is perfectly possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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