semi sticking

[bignoel]

i have a semi 302 barretta which is starting to stick .when it is fired it dicharges the spent shell but doe's nt put the next cartridge in line only now and again any idea's what needs doing to it before i drop it off at the shop for repairs.thanks noel

[webber]

Have you tried stripping and cleaning?

 

webber

[bignoel]

bit unsure of how to strip it ?

[webber]

Its a pity that you are so far away. Its not too difficult once you've done it, but difficult to try and describe in words from memory.

 

webber

[bignoel]

thanks anyway .i may just try and have a go at it ? the shop could put it right if i mess up ? noel

[Andy W]

On my 391 I find it easier to remove the trigger assembly and then it is a doddle to dismantle, very basic guns, there is also a good website with loads of Beretta semi information on but not sure if I am allowed to post the site on here.

[Gordon R]

Noel - you have PM. I can send you the manual.

 

Gordon

[bignoel]

thanks gordon stript down and a heavey cleaning in process manythanks guys,noel

[Chard]

thanks gordon stript down and a heavey cleaning in process manythanks guys,noel

 

I also think there's a bit of an art to oiling them :blink:

 

Too much oil and it'll jam, too little and it'll get sticky and jam. If you get it just right, they can be reasonably trouble-free. I find them a bit fickle with jamming though, which is why use an O/U and a pump. The pump never jams, the mechanism is very simplistic compared to a semi :blink:

[al4x]

not sure I'd oil my semi, just a thorough clean and a wipe down with wd40 anything that leaves any form of residue thats sticky tends to collect ****. Having said that mine is ancient and just gets cleaned when it starts to stick which is about once a year :blink:

 

It is daunting taking them apart the first time but generally once you drop the trigger out they come / fall apart fairly easily just note which bit came from where :blink:

[bob300w]

thanks gordon stript down and a heavey cleaning in process manythanks guys,noel

 

I also think there's a bit of an art to oiling them :blink:

 

Too much oil and it'll jam, too little and it'll get sticky and jam. If you get it just right, they can be reasonably trouble-free. I find them a bit fickle with jamming though, which is why use an O/U and a pump. The pump never jams, the mechanism is very simplistic compared to a semi :blink:

Really surprised that you find the 300 series of Beretta's "a bit fickle" Chard, they are probably the most reliable and trouble-free semi's on the market. I have owned a couple and worked on several, usually any problems are down to letting the works get full of ****, burnt powder etc.

 

not sure I'd oil my semi, just a thorough clean and a wipe down with wd40 anything that leaves any form of residue thats sticky tends to collect ****. Having said that mine is ancient and just gets cleaned when it starts to stick which is about once a year

 

It is daunting taking them apart the first time but generally once you drop the trigger out they come / fall apart fairly easily just note which bit came from where :blink:

As Al4x says, oil will cause **** to stick to it, and WD40 is as good as anything.

The piston and cylinder should NOT be oiled on a 300 series Beretta, although it appears to be an obvious place to lubricate.

The most likely cause of jamming is crud on the shaft that the piston slides on, a squirt of WD and a rub with fine wire-wool will do it. A smidgin of oil on this shaft will make it easier to clean next time.

There is no need to strip the trigger group, just drop it out (two push-out pins), wash in solvent, petrol etc, dry, preferably with an air line, squirt of WD, and replace. DO ensure that petrol, or any inflammable cleaning solvent used, is dry before re-assembly, guns have been known to explode, 22's in particular, due to petrol fumes in the action being ignited by the cartridge being fired.

[Chard]

thanks gordon stript down and a heavey cleaning in process manythanks guys,noel

 

I also think there's a bit of an art to oiling them :blink:

 

Too much oil and it'll jam, too little and it'll get sticky and jam. If you get it just right, they can be reasonably trouble-free. I find them a bit fickle with jamming though, which is why use an O/U and a pump. The pump never jams, the mechanism is very simplistic compared to a semi :blink:

Really surprised that you find the 300 series of Beretta's "a bit fickle" Chard, they are probably the most reliable and trouble-free semi's on the market. I have owned a couple and worked on several, usually any problems are down to letting the works get full of ****, burnt powder etc.

 

 

I've never actually owned one, to be honest. I've shot with a number of blokes who've used a variety of Beretta semis and they all seemed to suffer a lot more jamming and problems than we did with our O/U's or pumps. It just seems to me that the more complicated the guts of the thing are, the more there is to go wrong, 'cos I'm a technical sort of chap :blink:

[neil smith]

The Beretta gas system does seem to get dirty faster than some other auto's & perhaps you should think about cleaning it every 250 rounds or so, the gas auto's always get dirtier faster than the inertia type guns because gas is vented into the handguard area & you also get filthy when you clean them.

 

The Inertia guns like the Benelli, Franchi, Stoeger & so on will go on working longer without any cleaning & the job of cleaning them is far easier as the handguard area magazine tube & inside the receiver gets far less dirty because there is no blowback of gas & crud to clog them up, they do however recoil slightly more than the gas auto's but the Benelli offers the comfortec recoil absorbing stock on some of its models that helps a lot.

 

I clean the M2 I have every 450 rounds & never have any trouble with it, I also have a Super Nova pump that gets cleaned every 500 but to be honest it would go much longer, I just clean it cos I feel I should.

 

Its always a good idea to be sparing with the oil unless its a Remington which work better oily, Mobil 1 is a good oil on many auto's & is a bit cheaper than some of the expensive gun oils out there & it works just as good & you get a large amount for your money, If you like your oil to be something special then get some "shooters Choice FP10" its the best oil I have used & is good in all semi auto's including rifles.

 

N

Edited June 26, 2008 by neil smith