JohnGalway Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 (edited) . Edited September 3, 2009 by JohnGalway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 They look very good. I wonder if they do a subsonic? Do the americans even bother with subsonics due to their stupid moderator laws? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted July 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 (edited) . Edited September 3, 2009 by JohnGalway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 I'm not sure there'd be much point doing a jacketed subsonic? Would expansion then not become a problem? Lack of... They can get permits for moderators in some parts I am told The above link was because they have "lead free" areas in parts of some states. Wierd indeed. Perhaps they are for the long range (in rimfire terms) shooting fraternity over the pond. ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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casts_by_fly Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 most people don't bother with subs in the states. Standard 22 LR ammo is standard velocity. Some people go to high velocity or stingers, but standard velocity stuff is the most popular. Moderators are a dirty word on some US forums because of the negative connotations around them. I think there are 23 states where moderators are legal to own. Some you can own them but not hunt with them (target and plinking only). So subs don't serve as useful of a purpose as they do here. I have used them before and they are better than a standard round, but at the time they didn't give me the accuracy I wanted so I moved on. thanks rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 I cant see that there would be much of a market for them over here, but would like to know how they perform if anyone gets hold of a few ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 I like the look of the allistic tip too... Thos ein subsonic would be handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilv Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 What would they cost? Have you noticed how cheap the ammo is in the States? We are getting royally ripped off here. People are talking on US forums about getting a brick from walmart for $16. at that rate, we should be able to find 500 rounds for about a tenner.... LOL - fat chance of that. It used to cost that in about 1980. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Good find JG and will be looking out for some of them too. I'd guess sooner or later bullet producers will find a plastic that could fragment the projectile at subsonic speeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 (edited) Interesting but strange article. Lead free, non-toxic suggests very light or very expensive bullets, and as with shotgun cartridges means treble the price or more. Oddly, for an American advert, no performance details, not even muzzle velocity or bullet drop etc. And to show a boar as suitable game for a 22rf? The lack of information makes it appear to be a spoof advert, and if it isn't, is there really a need for this round, when a 17rf would probably do the job better? Edit; take a look at the "miltary round" that is too long to fit any 22rf magazine, and to claim equal performance to a 5.56? Methinks April the first has come early. Edited July 5, 2008 by bob300w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted July 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 (edited) . Edited September 3, 2009 by JohnGalway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 california has gone lead free in rifle bullets. Not positive of all of the requirements, but certainly in small bullets (.224" and under) it is lead free. thanks rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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