steve_b_wales Posted January 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 (edited) The only illegal thing I could do with this shotgun would be to shoot any OTHER species, apart from the birds that are causing the problems with the crops. Firing the shotgun into the air (SAFELY) does not constitute and illegal act. ( Verified by FEO ) Thanks to all who pointed out the possible 'illegal' act, and to warn me of the errors of my ways (I'm not the Messiah, I'm a very naughty boy!) I'm still waiting for a certain PW member to explain the reason why he suggested that I was doing an illegal act in the first place. It's funny isn't it. Some PW members 'have their say' and get their views aired, but when they are asked to justify their comments, they just slink off into the 'background' They remind me of the kind of motorists who shout, curse and give various graphic hand signals to you while they are safe inside their car. BUT, if and when you catch up with them by traffic lights etc, they just stare ahead as if they have got blinkers on. No one, or nothing else exists outside their vehicle. Edited January 17, 2009 by steve_b_wales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay222 Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 impressive speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M800 Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 like the flame and the speed,,,, but it took me ages to come back to the thread as i had to watch lots of other you tube shooting video once i had watch yours just could not help it :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinxy72 Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 nice shooting m8 ...... see he still aint come back bout the 'illegal' quote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 It`s fast alright!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackthorn Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 your going to have some fun with that ****** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwoofer Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 I tried eating a fruit pastille while shooting but nearly choked on it. The reason I extended the mag' to an 8 shot is because of the many hundreds of crows that I'm going to tackle in a few months.About three years ago, while using a flapper,decoys and Primos power crow caller, I shot a mix of 128 crows/jackdaws in about 2.5 hours. I used my Lanber O/U. If I had owned this shotgun then, the numbers would have almost doubled. The Escort is going to be used purely for crows/pigeons. I'd like to try it on clays, but the conditions imposed for its use, refrain me from using it. I have just bought exactly the same gun. Originally applied for re: practical shotgun, the only 'condition' of use specified on my FAC is the controlled use of slug ammunition. Apart from that, no other conditions are applied. According to the 'home office guidence for police 2002' document there is an automatic allowance to use an FAC shotgun for clay shooting, so unless you have a specific restriction or an 'ONLY for vermin control' you should be fine. I just christened mine with a couple of rounds of skeet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caplock Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Of course it's illegal!! That Hatsan has just fired 8 shots and is still working. Most are on their way back to eggy brothers or are sold on sharpish.!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted April 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 (edited) Caplock. What's illegal then? Please explain. AND, my gun is not on it's way back to E.B. If it does go faulty, then so be it. It's under guarantee, and I have many other shotguns to use if it's in for repair. I look forward to your reply. Edited April 15, 2009 by steve_b_wales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwoofer Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Caplock. What's illegal then? Please explain. AND, my gun is not on it's way back to E.B. If it does go faulty, then so be it. It's under guarantee, and I have many other shotguns to use if it's in for repair. I look forward to your reply. Steve, I assume Caplock is joking because some of the early Escorts were badly made. I have read that the design / manufacture has been improved and they are now a solid gun, so as long as you bought one new in the last year you should be fine with reliability. After my email on FAC conditions, now I am having a few doubts. I am going to call my FEO today and run it by them to double check. An FAC shotgun is always a grey area as you may use section 2 ammo and the only real difference is magazine capacity. Seems stupid to me as they should simply be allowed on a SGC. Slug ammo, well that is fair enough as that is serious stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caplock Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Make a cuppa and have a squint here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel100 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Hi guys, I also have a s1 shotgun - a Benelli SuperNova pump. Of course, use of slug ammo is restricted (in my case) to suitable range use. However, the gun (as per the explanation given by subwoofer) may be used for clayshooting. It specifically states that as a condition on my FAC and forms part of the 2002 Guidance Notes. A gentle word in the lug 'ole of the FEO should suffice. Alternatively, get BASC to have a word, if you are a member. Best wishes Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 When applying for my FAC shotgun, I stated that I would only use it for crop protection. These were the words I was told to use by my FEO. I'm not bothered if I cannot use it for anything else, as it was bought just for controlling (or frightening ) crows and pigeons. I have other shotguns for clays, rabbits etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanks Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I have a 8 shot escort synthetic and want to put a sling on it. Looks like you have added a screw in sling swivel on the butt stock Steve am I right or is there more to fitting the rear one as its synthetic. (my extension tube has the one fitted like yours). Fast firing. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Yes, you are right Lanks. I drilled a small pilot hole in the stock and then screwed the stud into it. The other end is purpose made for the shotgun and is available from Sportsman Guncentre to order. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fallowbuck Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Have clay shooting on my cert and had no problems.They seem to have changed their tune a bit of late! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanks Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Thanks Steve, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted April 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 (edited) As I mentioned on an earlier post. I asked that the FAC shotgun be used for crop protection. The police did not insist on this. I am not interested in using it for clays, and I have other shotguns for other uses. My Escort is purely a bird basher (or frightener, as the case is sometimes ) Edited April 19, 2009 by steve_b_wales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shottyscotty Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 have you tried bump firing it of the hip. i seen a guy do it with a semi auto ar15 and fire 30 shots under half a second Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiho Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 have you tried bump firing it of the hip. i seen a guy do it with a semi auto ar15 and fire 30 shots under half a second that works with ruger10/22s aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Some awesome speed shooting that mate,nearly belt fed,sod carrying your shells to the hide mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted April 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 (edited) Thanks Bluebarrels. Since the video was taken, I have only shot 4 off in one go. It was at a crow (which I should have bloody well hit with the first shot) I winged it with the third, and dropped him with the fourth. I'm waiting for the days to come when there will be stubble and young crows/jackdaws coming into the decoys. THEN, we'll see how the shotgun performs. Edited April 24, 2009 by steve_b_wales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 I know how you feel mate,crows can be very tricky to shoot,i shoot over a farm with 1000+ pigs of various ages penned around the farm and crows are a big problem especially in the next few months,when the young ones are about,had some cracking bags last year ,best bag to date was 125 birds,but then again i went out on wednesday (just gone)and fired 0 shells,but i know the good times are a coming BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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