Highlander Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 IF and this is the rub, IF these guys were totally in the right, safe shooting, well away from houses, on a proven permission etc etc and the police reacted in the way explained THEN they (the shooters) should 1) provide BASC/CA with all the details and ask them investigate the matter 2) make a formal complaint via the right channels about the conduct of the police and 3) get hold of a good local journalist and release the story making an issue of it about the waste of public money etc etc involved in the response to this incident. If you're going about your lawful pastime in a lawful way you should have nothing to worry about BUT don't do nothing get out there and make sure it's all made public. Support your sport! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 I had the same when some idiot call and complained about the noise of me shooting. Seen the chopper come over the ridge and the riot van on its way. The farmer also spotted them and stopped them in there tracks. Told them He had given me permission to be there and sent them on there way They didn't even come and speak to me, although he did, just told me they had a noise complaint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 (edited) in ireland, as long as your around 90/100 yds from main road, and far from unknown dwellings your perfectly fine.generally you have no fear of farmers not wanting you shooting, as they are all happy to have you on their land, so if your not too noisy you can usually go onto any permission, as all the farmers know whos on the land and what theyr doing The NARGC have some decent enough info out for us in Ireland on their homepage (NARGC.ie). There's bits about lamping and moderators etc. Well worth a read if ya haven't. You're allowed legally to "lamp" from the road. But, you definately can't shoot from it, you need to be 60 yards away from it and shooting away from the road. There's one sticky point, something along the lines of disgharging a firearm in a public area. The problem with it is that the Garda gets to define what is or isn't a public area, ah the joy. As usual though, common sense will win out. Don't cause any hassle for people living in the area and no one will cause hassle for the lamper (usually). Have people screaming at me to shoot foxes at the moment, no time though! Here the cops will just usually ask what you're up to, do you have a licence for the gun/s, who owns the land, and do you have permission. Never been asked for written anything aside from the licence. They're like anyone I guess you'll get the helpful ones and the jobsworths. It helps where I am as most of them are either farmers themselves or related to farmers so they're not a bad lot as long as I'm not being a problem to them. Edited February 24, 2009 by JohnGalway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 This sort of thing is where carrying your licence and permission letter on you and showing to the officers will probably take the wind out of their sails. ( not saying the person in this original post did or didn't do that) I just remember from previous posts that some people don't carry them and some leave them in the car!!!! They may do a check on their computer to confirm your licence has not been revoked and then they should be happy. It just makes it easier, otherwise they will do a check on your name, ask for ID to try and verify your details and be satisfied you are the person you claim to be I leave mine in the car - which is usually on the boundary near the point of entry to where I am. I doubt the licence would remain intact for long if I carried the thing on my person. My car reg number would - and has been checked in the past to establish a FAC is held by the driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 I doubt the licence would remain intact for long if I carried the thing on my person. That's a problem here too. It's printed on bad quality paper for Gods sake. They should be on chip & pin type doohickeys with a photo of the licence holder. One swipe of the card and you're good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 http://www.wigantoday.net/wigannews/Gun-po...ters.5009173.jp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagsy Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 As frustrating as it sounds I think the police done the right thing by stopping the shooting when they did. There was obviously a conflict between the complainant and the shooters which hadn't gone well. While the activity may have been legal sometimes it's best to let things simmer down (thus preventing any possible breach of the peace), especially where firearms are involved. Once the mist has cleared the matter can be dealt a little more diplomatically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tefal Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Up to now I've been happy just reading the forums and have never felt the need to get my two penneth in, as someone will always be thinking along the same lines as me and be more experienced in the field! However this thread has made me wonder how appropriate it is to send a helicopter to a potential armed incident. I don't know much about helicopters but i feel pretty certain that police forces in the UK don't use Cobra's or Apache helicopters - and if they are tasked to investigate a firearms incident and they are unlucky enough to run into crims/terrorists, how safe are they up there? On another track, I agree that the shooters shouldn't be moved on just because someone doesn't like what they're doing - I didn't like riverdance but i didn't expect the local bobbies to escort Micheal Flattley of stage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 LOL Welcome aboard Tefal Don't get me started on Riverdance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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