blacta Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 (edited) Some Americans clips, One confimed kill on deer, That crow does get owned though! I understand that some would have been tracked and dispatched but think about their shot placement, there must be so many wounded that die slowly. I know the bow is mans oldest invention for hunting but....... Toby Edited March 5, 2010 by blacta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyCM Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Looks ok from where I am - a few misses - that happens to us all Most of those 'runners' would have bled out within a short walk. Rifle or bow there will be a reaction to shot AndyCM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Looks ok from where I am - a few misses - that happens to us allMost of those 'runners' would have bled out within a short walk. Rifle or bow there will be a reaction to shot AndyCM Lets not criticise another cultures hunting methods less they turn the tables on us. LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 I don't agree. If it's to be done properly, a broadhead with a seriously powerful bow. I have seen animals be dropped on the spot using a mass damage broadhead, but this was an utter joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Here's how bow hunting should be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Here's how bow hunting should be done. That was not only AWESOME but about 10000000 times more humane Good job for bringing this to attention Hartfordwmj If I had a bow, and was hitting Wild turkey - these would be the arrows By the way hartford, is there a more humane way of getting deer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 (edited) By the way hartford, is there a more humane way of getting deer? Yeah, a big rifle Not a bow and arrow! Can't get much cleaner than this - 22 seconds in Edited February 27, 2009 by harfordwmj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Yeah, a big rifle Not a bow and arrow! Cheeky b****** Set myself up 4 that though - fair play :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I'd be off bowhunting quite happily if it was legal here There's bad examples of everything under the sun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopy bunny blaster Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I'd be off bowhunting quite happily if it was legal here There's bad examples of everything under the sun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundowner Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Some Americans clips, One confimed kill on deer, That crow does get owned though! I understand that some would have been tracked and dispatched but think about their shot placement, there must be so many wounded that die slowly. I know the bow is mans oldest invention for hunting but i am against it! Toby You fall into the same trap as everyone who has never tried it. Just think, HOW CLOSE you have to get to the game to get a shot. The skill involved is unbelievable. Most american friends do both, rifle and bow season hunting. They go on reccies to determine scrapes , tracks etc put up a high seat and wait! Traipsing through the woods in total darkness at about 4 am. They have cut away branches and made sure they have 2 "shooting lanes". Once the deer is shot they wait before they go and recover it. THe rest is more or less the same as here. Before you critizise you might want to try it first?And, by the way, would you be willing to practise practise and practise again and again and again? Try "simple" target archery and then we might talk again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacta Posted February 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) . Edited March 5, 2010 by blacta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fo5ter Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Here's how bow hunting should be done. That was AWESOME!!! turkeys sure are stupid animals - you shoot ones head off and the others just look at it as if thats what normally happens! Soundtrack was cool too We non-bow hunters take for granted how easy it looks but ive fired a bow and i sucked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Boy I think hunting with air rifles sucks and doesnt kill the birds or rabbits! Glad it not allowed here! There are just way too many guys wounding squirrels, rabbits and pigeons, and then they crawl off and die in the underbush...disgusting! NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) HAHAHA, this one made me laugh, right when the two turkeys enter from the right. It looked like two blokes out on the town thinking they've pulled massively...! Once again, the proper way to do it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_1mFAi2SSQ Edited February 28, 2009 by harfordwmj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacta Posted February 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) . Edited March 5, 2010 by blacta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I understand that some would have been tracked and dispatched but think about their shot placement, there must be so many wounded that die slowly. I know the bow is mans oldest invention for hunting but i am against it! Toby Toby, I am somewhat baffled that while you admirably feel concern in case animals suffered after being shot with a bow and arrow, you were making a joke out of Jade Goody's suffering with cancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 As the size of the animal increaces the guilt should multiply. Oh so now we dont care if the poor little squirrel suffers....(we will feel a little guilty)... but a deer means lots of guilt? Okay a couple of facts: Bows kill by blood lose not shock damage. When the animal runs it is usually a reaction to the sound of the bow string not the arrow hitting them. The arrow is traveling so fast and is so sharp it would feel like a wasp sting. I have seen many deer and moose aswell as bears run 100 to 1500 meters or more after being shot with rifles aswell. A gun does not mean that it is going to drop straight down. And I have probably had to track more rifle shot game over the years as a guide than I have bow shot. As to why do we hunt with bows....some areas are bow hunt only by law.....some seasons are bow hunt only by law.......personnally I like to get as close to my animals as I can, a 20 meter or less bow shot means a heck of alot more to me that a 200meter or more rifle shot. As to the respect to the quarry....I feel the same remorse when killing a deer as a squirrel or rabbit or pigeon. If you dont then you do not have the proper respect for the animals that you are harvesting and should not be hunting. NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 As the size of the animal increaces the guilt should multiply. I totally agree with NTTF on this one, guilt? is not pro rata to size and why feel guilt? Sadness and respect for the passing of a fine animal, but pride in a job well done as a hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacta Posted February 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) . Edited March 5, 2010 by blacta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenntay Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 i can see both sides of this argument as i shoot a rifle and both my sons shoot bows "targets" both my son shoot at county level and when you see the grouping they get at 20 meters 2" to 3". and at 60 meters betwwen 6" and 8" and when my eldest son practise in the garden at10 meters he as to shoot at 3 diffrent target as the arrows are so tight together he risks smashing them . so if you can shoot at that level i can,t see a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacta Posted February 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) Edited March 3, 2009 by blacta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 This guy seems pretty good is it u NTTF?Respect is a completly different thing to guilt my friend....... blacta, According to your profile you are 15, thats not a bad thing, I am glad to see you interested in the outdoors, hunting, fishing, ferreting etc. I am also glad to see that you are trying to increase your knowledge of the countryside, and the hunting side of things. However I do not think that Idiot Tube, where you will find 50 bad examples to every good 1, is the place to learn. If you really want to learn about archery and make an informed opinion get yourself a bow and practice a couple of years until you are splitting arrows out at 20 meters, and at the same time practice getting inclose to the animals you hunt. Start taking the rabbits that you air rifle at 15 to 20 metres and passing on anything further. Well you are out see how many times you can get inside 20 meters of a row, fallow, red or any other deer. If after two years you are doing this consistantly book yourself a trip bowhunting and try it. You will then have a well balanced opinion and one that YOU have earned. NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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