Dunkield Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Fair point. But you have that blinking enormous PES T12 on your 6.5, if I recall? That's not a light bit of kit to lug anywhere (particularly if you also insist on wearing your Imperial Stormtrooper uniform on the hill). ASE mods are the way to go. No I have never had, and probaly never will get the 6.5 cut I like it just the way it is. For a dedicated hill rifle I would go as light as possible, as you walk almost all day for maybe 1 or 2 shots. If noise was an issue I would take some foam plugs just for the shot as you normally have time to prepare for it. The PES was actually a T12 short (or scout as they seem to be called these days) I am replacing that with the ASE CQD, which I am assured is the best there is for .22 centrefires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 I've got a CQB on my .22-250, and the larger Compact on my .270, neither of which I can fault on any level. I'm confident you won't be disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codling99 Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 ok i have to ask, What a mod for? i'm getting a SMK mod 19? what does that mean to me? god being a noob sucks. a mod or moderator is a silencer that fits on the end of a rifle mate,cuts the crack at the muzzle when fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 I've got a CQB on my .22-250, and the larger Compact on my .270, neither of which I can fault on any level. I'm confident you won't be disappointed. Indeed. I just picked my CQB up from the shop, my heart sank when I was passed the box I was convinced they had got a rimfire mod in for me by mistake - Jeeeesus H they are small Can't wait to try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted May 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 How much are the ASE moderators ? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Mine was £215 new and it reduces the noise of the 22-250 a huge amount.It is an ase northstar,stainless. I would not use the 22-250 without it,especially on a calm night when it sounds even more deafening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Mine were £250 each, and worth every penny. Why buy a Wildcat Predator or T8 when a few more quid gets you a mod that's a fraction of the size, and offers better sound attenuation? Tp put it into context, an ASE CQB for a .22 CF is the same size as a SAK rimfire mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted May 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Mine were £250 each, and worth every penny. Why buy a Wildcat Predator or T8 when a few more quid gets you a mod that's a fraction of the size, and offers better sound attenuation? Tp put it into context, an ASE CQB for a .22 CF is the same size as a SAK rimfire mod. AH I saw that in the shop, thought it looked a bit silly as it was so small :yp: n didn't really believe it would be cracked up to modding a 243 as it was the same size as a SAK mod I would prefer a bit of a longer one, I think they look better lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 The ASE Utra Jet-Z Compact is the one for suitable the .243, and is a wee bit larger than a SAK mod. But it's considerably smaller (and better) than a T8 or Predator 8. You might think big mods look cool, but I bet you anything you won't hold that view when you've spent a day on the hill or out foxing, where weight is a priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 But do the smaller mods deal with muzzle flip and recoil as well as the larger ones do? Lorraine has a Viper Evo on her .243. A lot smaller than my T8 but there is a marked difference in flip and recoil between the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 I shall run a very subjective comparision when I am next punching paper, and report back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted May 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 I shall run a very subjective comparision when I am next punching paper, and report back. Am interested to hear the results Baldrick Please let us know. I like the look of those PES mods, although they are quite long they seem thinner than the T8's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie223 Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Got one on my hmr and my 223 they do make a diffrence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyCM Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 ASE's on all my noisy rifles .17 hmr - the rimfire one .223 - the CQB .243 - the S5 7mm-08 - the Compact - I believe they all use the JetZ baffle system. Screw the balance of any rifle that is true but I never shoot any of mine in the field or range without one fitted. Well maybe just the once so I know where the bullets go with / without. Cheers AndyCM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 (edited) I like the look of those PES mods, although they are quite long they seem thinner than the T8's! PES T12 mods are very heavy, despite their reed-like appearance. But then the PES Scout does a perfectly good job on my .270, which makes me question why people opt for the big daddy T12 on milder calibres. AndyCM: do you bother to clean out your ASE rimfire mod? I bought one second-hand a few weeks ago, and am loathed to dismantle the thing. I was going to soak it in Redex as and when needs be, as an alternative to piecing the baffles back together. Edited May 13, 2009 by Baldrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytie Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 The PES was actually a T12 short (or scout as they seem to be called these days) I am replacing that with the ASE CQD, which I am assured is the best there is for .22 centrefires. Stuart, is the CQB mod stainless? I have just looked on the ASE site and it does not appear to be listed as such. If so, why? ft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 The reason you will get a moderator on your FAC is for Hearing conservation and Environmentl protection (Noise polution). Additional benifits. Less muzzle flip Less recoil Less flinch More accuracy for many people due to the lack of recoil and flinch Happyer neighbours when you are shooting early in the morning or late at night. A few years ago I took a buck at 0600 in the morning 200m from my stalking mates house, he didn't even hear it. About 5 years ago I joined a Deer Management group. There were approx 10 members I was the only one to have a moderated rifle. Now all but one contankerouse old guy has moderators. Most of these guys have a lot more stalking experiance than I do. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJLeslie Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I have one for my .17 hmr but never use it unless i'm shooting from the back of the house. I find it gets dirty from spent powder pretty quick and you start loosing accuracy. Plus the .17 isn't really as loud as people think, it's more of a 'pop' than a 'crack'. It also is a pain in the **** when shooting from a vehicle due to the added length. On the other hand i'd use one on a .22lr as it's a far cleaner burning round and certinaly on something like a .223 or 22-250 due to the reduction in recoil and obviously noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Recoil on the CF .22s is not realy a problem. One other benifit of the Moderator is it confuses the animals i.e. they dont know where the shot has come form. On a number of ocasions I have shot one deer and the remainder have ran towards me. I have shot roe at 50m with it and their mate also 50m away has staid put. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 I use mods on all of my rifles. The 6.5x55 is deafening (literally) without one but when it's fitted I will shoot it without ear plugs. They may be heavy but unless you are prepared to spend the same sort of money on electronic ear plugs I'd get one! I'd rather get fitter from carrying an extra 1lb up a mountain than go deaf from not! I use a Widcat predator 8 on my 6.5x55, an Ase S5 on my .22 hornet and a SAK on my .17hmr. The .375H&H isn't screwcut due to the front sight, and where I've used that 1. I've worn plugs and 2. mods are illegal anyway! I recommend the S5 if you're willing to spend the money. It's tiny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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