markadams Posted February 17, 2003 Report Share Posted February 17, 2003 Hi, I am looking to buy some decoy equipment, I want to buy all the basic equipment, Hide poles, netting, decoys, rotor ? And anything else you can suggest. I need this fairly fast and was wonder what the best place is to buy it all. I have been pigeon shooting for a while but I have always used other peoples equipment before and I thought that it is time to buy my own. Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean johnston Posted February 17, 2003 Report Share Posted February 17, 2003 Hi markadams.If you want superb quality decoys i suggest you have a look on this site-www.############## i have some of their decoys myself and they are very good.As far as rotary devices are concerned their are that many on the market at different prices.I would suggest you consider the following before making a decision. 1)Build quality 2)The running time of the machine,some machines will run all day on a 7ah battery. 3)The weight of the machine as this will be appreciated when walking long distances. I purchased a set of hide poles from sandwell field sports they are 3 piece and are called apple hide poles, they are nice and light but a cheaper alternative is to use washing line poles(see photos of shooting related stuff) and finally what ever type of hide pole you choose get ones that have a thumbscrew to lock the poles to the desired height as some members of this site have had problems with other types. Regards sean. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markadams Posted February 17, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2003 Sean, Thank you for your reply, I will have a look at the site, do you know how long it takes to get stuff delivered from them? What about hide netting? I was looking at the deben hide poles, anyone got any idea of what they are like? Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean johnston Posted February 17, 2003 Report Share Posted February 17, 2003 Hi markadams.The hide poles in the deben catalogue(green ones with kick plate on bottom)are the ones i have (apple hide poles)but you will get them much cheaper from sandwell field sports.As for the netting decoying .co.uk sell both the moorland and woodland as seen in the deben catalogue but cheaper.I have the 15'x6' moorland net and it is superb,a good all round net.Sandwell field sports tel-0121 520 2000. Sean. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NGhost Posted February 17, 2003 Report Share Posted February 17, 2003 The S&N hide poles are ver good and only £38 for 4 in a bag. I like the newer army surplus netting (the old stuf waterlogs and can stink if it starts to mold) made of synthetics £20 from my local chap in Oxford. Rotors are good but they cant make pigeons if there are none about, get one after you have all the basics. Flexicoys work well and are indistructable, but they can shine in sunlight, flock ones are nearly as good as dead pigeons, until the flocking comes off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markadams Posted February 17, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2003 Do you have the contact details for S&N? Web site would be great. Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 17, 2003 Report Share Posted February 17, 2003 N&S Shooting Supplies 01925 728057 Mike Newall, Telephone him and ask for a price list. Please mention Pigeon Watch. I would reiterate, that I have no commercial relationship with N&S. Just a satisfied customer and appreciative, that they have donated prizes for our competitions. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everygoodnamewastaken Posted February 17, 2003 Report Share Posted February 17, 2003 I use 4 clothes poles spray painted green/brown and a brand new camo net from a car boot sale, cots a tenner...........cheap as chips...more money to buy cartriges and to miss with :( :thumbs: :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markadams Posted February 18, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 Which poles would you recommend, the N&S or Sandwell? Do they differ a lot? Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 I,m not familiar with the Sandwell ones. The N&S ones have the "screw in locking bolt thingy", which is essential, in my opinion. They are well made and light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 8-) Mark you can,t beat the ones with the adjustable plastic friction insert. Got 4 you can have cheap !!! :( :*) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markadams Posted February 18, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 I was trying to get a set of hide pole for the weekend but, ############## don't have them in stock, Sandwell are out of stock (first time in 5 years), N & S need me to send a cheque so no chance of getting them by the weekend. And I am not paying Deben £70 even if they could get them to me in time. Mark. :( :thumbs: :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 mark, why not use 6ft bamboo canes, just for the weekend. You will need about 8, notch the top with a knife, to slot your net into. They will do the job temporarily. The quicker you get the cheque off, the quicker your new poles will arrive. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Pieman Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 Hi Ernya, If Mark doesn't want your poles I would be most interested :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 :thumbs: PP it was a sarcastic joke that I expected Cranfield to jump on as he owns the same make of pole as me. He is not too impressed with them,me neither. Sorry for misleading you. :( :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Pieman Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 Bu**er! Crashed and burned on that one!! :*) :*) :*) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 I have the poles with the inserts that you do up I find them to be no problem, they are about five years old and I have tightened them up a few times but don't find them to bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 johnny, if they are the same ones and you use them a lot, the problem will occur. It starts with having to tighten them ,every trip. Then it progresses to the pole "collapsing" during a shooting day and you forgetting to take a screwdriver. It ends with no adjustment available and you going to the nearest motor factors shop and buying some rubber grommits, to slide up and down the pole, to stop it sliding down. I know, I am on the last stage now. When I get fed up buying rubber grommits (they don,t last forever), I will buy some more proper N&S ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 A tip I had from my local gunshop when I mentioned the problem with the poles. He said hold the plastic ends in boiling water and they expand . Haven,t tried it myself yet but worth a go. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 ernyha, its the bloke in my local gunshop, that needs having his ends hanging in boiling water. He didn,t mention the other complaints he had received about the hide poles, until I started to complain. Its cost him an ongoing special cartridge discount, or he loses my business. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 Cranfield I hasten to add that my gunshop bloke didn,t sell me my poles as I bought them mail order. So he was offering genuine advice and not trying to fob me off. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazza Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 Mark, I may be able to help you out.........I've PM'd you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Pieman Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 Out of curiosity, do any of you still make traditional style hides with branches etc? I do from time to time - subject to the agreement of the landowner and the site being suitable. Gives the day a nice 'olden days' feel. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NGhost Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 I have several "hides" that started off as dens for the local kids. This was about 30 years ago. The plants are kept at bay by whoever uses the hides consatantly snipping. One is just right for a sitty tree. so I walk up put down stall and wait for the birds to have a sit down. Its a great place to have a rest drink coffee and shoot the odd bird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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