Hubertus Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 My little German Spaniel (13 months) got yesterday contact with a racoon. It was a really hard fight for the young dog. But she succeed. The racoon can bite and scrape really hard. I had the chance to film it. Im not sure if i should upload it. It happened while hunting. I couldnt shoot for safety reasons concerning the dog. Hubertus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubertus Posted July 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 and after the fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackthorn Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 bet it was a bit of a scrap them things have got some good teeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digga Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 nice one Hubertus, get the film posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M ROBSON Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 I never really associated Racoons with Europe, always thought of them as a North American animal. Do you get many in Germany? Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubertus Posted July 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 In certain area there are masses of this not native predator. They begin to spread all over the country. A friend of mine catches every year 30-40 on his ground (behind the house!). I will upload some scenes of the video on monday. Have all a good sleep Hubertus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupidsalmon Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 Nice gloves Hubertus!!?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 Hubertus I did not realize that you had them. The one you have in that picture is a small yearling by the looks of it. I run Hounds after them over here. Over the years I have lost two good dogs that went into the water to fight coons, Both times the coons got onto the dogs heads and drown them. The biggest one that I have treed and shot weighed 65 pounds. We hunt them for their fur over here, one of my best seasons was 584 coons from October25 to Dec 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 We hunt them for their fur over here. :< You kept that quiet NT, how much did you get for the ones I shot for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 We hunt them for their fur over here. :< You kept that quiet NT, how much did you get for the ones I shot for you? B) OH NTTF, how could you rip off ern like that Him being an OAP and all that LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 Sorry mate those two were just pest control, and since they were hit with a shotgun it would have cost me money to send them in.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 Hubertus, do you use your spaniel for hunting and retrieving ? I appreciate things are different in other Countries, but I would not have allowed any of my gundogs to fight and kill anything, being afraid they would develop a "hard mouth" and become agressive with wounded quarry. If they were attacked, I would call them off and intervene, if necessary. As I say, I appreciate things are different elsewhere and I do not intend to sound critical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubertus Posted July 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 Nice gloves Hubertus!!?? yes i got them as a present from the guy where i bought one of my leather trousers. They are very usefull for that. In the product description was written: for catching wild animals Hubertus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubertus Posted July 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 @cranfield: yes i do a lot of hunting with our dog. There is no problem concerning retrieving. They dont get a harder grip. The dog can differenciate that. A drive on a driven day takes 3 hour. You let your dog go and he returns after some time. You can normally not see what he have done during that time (a drive is between 500-2000 hektar) so there would be also no possibility to call him back from a predator. We want self confident dog who are able to pull down a wounded calw, predator and throw the wildboar out of the thick wood (which is really hard work for the dog). You are right, that things in different country are different. We do over here much less shotgun shooting and more stalking with the rifle. Best wishes, Hubertus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 Hubertus, thanks for the clarification. You use your dogs very similarly to my friends in Georgia USA, when they go hunting wild pigs. They "surround" an area of about 200-300 hectares and turn their dogs loose in it. The sound of the dogs lets them know where the action is. As you probably know we work our gundogs close to us and they are under our control (theoretically ) all of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubertus Posted July 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Hi Cranfield, we do both with our dog. Retrieving is close work mainly and hunting is mainly far away. But it is for sure that normally the specialists are better in retrieving then our allrounder. But for us it is fine. Have a look on the crow retrieving in the video section. I could upload some more videos of our dogs working if you are interested in. Best wishes, Hubertus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubertus Posted July 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 If someone is interested in watching the video please send me a Private Message on the board. I didnt want to post the link here because I dont want to make it accessible for everyone on the internet. Best wishes, Hubertus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Nice video, its always good to see dogs working. I can understand how you choose to work your dog and why. The difference is that I (and every other gundog owner I know) would not permit a gundog to show any aggression towards the quarry, dead or injured. This is not in any way a criticism, its just another example how things are different around the World. I know everyone really appreciate your contribution to Pigeon Watch and the stories and pictures of how you follow the sport. Keep up the good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 If someone is interested in watching the video please send me a Private Message on the board. I didnt want to post the link here because I dont want to make it accessible for everyone on the internet. Best wishes, Hubertus Very wise H. You wouldn't want to end up starring in a LACS video Interesting info. Where'd these 'coons come from as they sure aren't native? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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