age lowered to 18 for HGVs

[KennyB]

as from the 10th of sept the government lowered the age to 18 to drive a hgv,the reason being to encourage youngsters into the industry,although some of them will will be very capable of driving these things and wiil go on to become very good drivers, i feel that with only 1yrs experiance of driving on 4 wheels is to soon to be put in charge in one of these thing,with the ever increasing congestion on our road networks and the standard of driving deteriorating by the minute,having been driving these things for 36 yrs i must admit i have had my moments but nothing major iam plesed to say ,the company i work for will not take on any driver under 25 and then must have 2yrs experiance and then theres the insurance icant see any firm getting insured for a 18 year old,so to any budding 18yr old out there i wish you all the best but before you spend out 2/3 grand make sure you can finda firm to take you on ,,

 

good luck kenny

[chrispti]

I agree

 

I passed my class 2 and 1 at 18, the local driving agencies wouldn't put me on any class 1 work because of insurance reasons. I thought most haulage companies wouldn't take anyone under 25

[KennyB]

was that in the army crispt????i

[chrispti]

was that in the army crispt????i

 

Yes mate, scary really, 18 years old, full ADR (less nuclear) driving Class 1 fuel tankers

 

Some of my mates were driving cat 1 tank transporters

[KennyB]

well done mate,dont know your age now but you might find some 2 work, failing that get a polish licence you will get a start tomorrow lol

good luck anywayl

[barrowboy]

as from the 10th of sept the government lowered the age to 18 to drive a hgv,the reason being to encourage youngsters into the industry,although some of them will will be very capable of driving these things and wiil go on to become very good drivers, i feel that with only 1yrs experiance of driving on 4 wheels is to soon to be put in charge in one of these thing,with the ever increasing congestion on our road networks and the standard of driving deteriorating by the minute,having been driving these things for 36 yrs i must admit i have had my moments but nothing major iam plesed to say ,the company i work for will not take on any driver under 25 and then must have 2yrs experiance and then theres the insurance icant see any firm getting insured for a 18 year old,so to any budding 18yr old out there i wish you all the best but before you spend out 2/3 grand make sure you can finda firm to take you on ,,

 

good luck kenny

 

 

I for one will not be taking on 18 yr old drivers , as you say no experiance and a little hot headed at that age .I'm sure this has been done for just one reason only , and thats the new driver cpc .Which hgv drivers will have to take every 5 years , most older drivers that I know say they will give up driving when their first 5 years are over .Which they get with granfather rights . Like being tought to suck egg's ,when you've spent 20 years behind the wheel ,and then who knows how much this 35 hour trainings going to cost , not cheap I expect . Just more Bull S### and more money for the government .

[KennyB]

barrowboy i make you right mate, the company i work for is a large reputable and every year we have to take the 100 question theory test and a 2hour driving assesment, as far as the cpc goes when me granfather rights are up that when ill park up

[Delbert]

I for one will not be taking on 18 yr old drivers , as you say no experiance and a little hot headed at that age .I'm sure this has been done for just one reason only , and thats the new driver cpc .Which hgv drivers will have to take every 5 years , most older drivers that I know say they will give up driving when their first 5 years are over .Which they get with granfather rights . Like being tought to suck egg's ,when you've spent 20 years behind the wheel ,and then who knows how much this 35 hour trainings going to cost , not cheap I expect . Just more Bull S### and more money for the government .

 

Don't forget all the other cowpies this useless bunch has introduced electronic tacho that costs a business tens of thousand of pound to implement , an ADR licence that at each renewal contradicts the previous examination, security for goods to be carried on aircraft that now says sealing a load with a heavy padlock is less secure than a crappy plastic tag and therefore not acceptable I'm for early retirement cos sitting at home drawing benefits seems to be much easier than being widdled on by thieves and unelected liars.

[chrispti]

I dont know much about the drivers CPC

[Mrs Sweepy]

I might be wrong

But i thought they where going to put the age up to 18 before you could pass your driving test.

 

Like said on here your really do need the few years of driving.

Before you even get behind the wheel of a HGV.

 

Most companies only want experience.

xxxxSuzy

[KennyB]

chritpi, certificate of professional competence is something held by by transport managers owner drivers etc. but the mugging government is introducing one for every driver starting out, think it comes in in 2014 not quite sure and it wont be cheap, then every 5yrs you will have to have 35 hrs trainng or 7 hrs a week something like that ,i am sure some one well know exactly, and to make things even worse it is will not be the full for which need for an (o) licence,annbody driving these vehicles befor it comes out will get granfathers rights

[chrispti]

chritpi, certificate of professional competence is something held by by transport managers owner drivers etc. but the mugging government is introducing one for every driver starting out, think it comes in in 2014 not quite sure and it wont be cheap, then every 5yrs you will have to have 35 hrs trainng or 7 hrs a week something like that ,i am sure some one well know exactly, and to make things even worse it is will not be the full for which need for an (o) licence,annbody driving these vehicles befor it comes out will get granfathers rights

 

Just been reading about it on line, I dont think its very clear , not sure who pays for it either although Id guess the boss would be able to claim it back as it is training

[KennyB]

if you work for a company they will pay for it, if your agency or an owner driver then its down to you

Edited September 12, 2009 by kenny5406

[Axe]

I wonder what the insurance companies have to say on this.

[KennyB]

yes axe interesting point ,one things for sure someone is going to make a lot of money out of this, how i hate lining peoples pockets

[chrispti]

I wonder what the insurance companies have to say on this.

 

either ''NO'' or ££££££££££££££ with a massive excess !!!!

[markb]

I think it was on top gear last week, were they tried to get insurance quotes pretending to be 17 year old students, the quotes ranged between 3000 and 8000 now 18 year olds are capable of driving HGV's safely. personally I wouldn't trust most of them on push bikes.

17 to 21 year old males have always had the worst driving records and always will. Like someone said earlier too much blood and hormones, at that age it's either at one end of the body or the other

[Mungler]

I think good driving comes from hours and hours of practice and putting it all into effect on the roads i.e. age and experience count, not whether a test which lasts x hours has been passed and a particular piece of paper / certificate obtained.

 

I reckon 99.9% of the insurance companies (and the claims statistics their underwriters work from) will agree with me.

 

When I passed, I can't think of anyone who passed their car test at 17 and who didn't have some sort of knock, bump or bang in their first year of driving.

[wabbitbosher]

I think good driving comes from hours and hours of practice and putting it all into effect on the roads i.e. age and experience count, not whether a test which lasts x hours has been passed and a particular piece of paper / certificate obtained.

 

I reckon 99.9% of the insurance companies (and the claims statistics their underwriters work from) will agree with me.

 

When I passed, I can't think of anyone who passed their car test at 17 and who didn't have some sort of knock, bump or bang in their first year of driving.

 

 

After over 25 years in the motor trade servicing a Huge fleet from escort van to daf 95 and 44 ft trailers , i agree 100%

 

Not saying the odd bloke with 10 years under his belt cant loose concentration and stuff a daf 95 and 44 ft trailer in a ditch "OOPS"

Try climbing out of a daf 95 "Tank Style" , them doors are Bloomin heavy

 

WB

[poontang]

I can't think of anyone who passed their car test at 17 and who didn't have some sort of knock, bump or bang in their first year 31 years of driving.

 

[ginge]

After over 25 years in the motor trade servicing a Huge fleet from escort van to daf 95 and 44 ft trailers , i agree 100%

 

Not saying the odd bloke with 10 years under his belt cant loose concentration and stuff a daf 95 and 44 ft trailer in a ditch "OOPS"

Try climbing out of a daf 95 "Tank Style" , them doors are Bloomin heavy

 

WB

At least in the motor trade you don't need a cpc

[starlight32]

Before I left school I used to shunt in my uncles yard. He ran a few wagons.

 

I soon learned that under the seat or in the glove box was the place to look for an unsupassed amount of grot mags........

[Mrs Sweepy]

I found Sweepys stash.

But he always swear

A belong to one of the other drivers.

So i suppose the calendars in the office are the other drivers too.

xxxxSuzy

[Delbert]

Well I've read goodness how many pages about this new piece of bureaucratic garbage and pretty well know less than when I started. I have a CPC (Road Freight National) which entitles me to hold an O licence required for vehicles over 3.5tonnes gross which is handy as my work motor is a 7.5t Daf question being as it falls within the O licence but is not actually an LGV do I need to be covered or am I actually already covered by my existing CPC.

The one thing I am certain of is that we are about to find out just how experienced a bunch of eastern european 18 year olds are in 38 tonners how many fatalities will it take to admit this legilation is a bunch of testicles- I note the one eyed weasels crew are distancing themselves by passing the blame on to the EU just following orders ( an excuse that members of the EU were using long before the first Treaty see also WW2 ) and which is simpler than using derogation- also known as telling the EU where to place the Paxo.

:lol: :lol:

[barrowboy]

Well I've read goodness how many pages about this new piece of bureaucratic garbage and pretty well know less than when I started. I have a CPC (Road Freight National) which entitles me to hold an O licence required for vehicles over 3.5tonnes gross which is handy as my work motor is a 7.5t Daf question being as it falls within the O licence but is not actually an LGV do I need to be covered or am I actually already covered by my existing CPC.

The one thing I am certain of is that we are about to find out just how experienced a bunch of eastern european 18 year olds are in 38 tonners how many fatalities will it take to admit this legilation is a bunch of testicles- I note the one eyed weasels crew are distancing themselves by passing the blame on to the EU just following orders ( an excuse that members of the EU were using long before the first Treaty see also WW2 ) and which is simpler than using derogation- also known as telling the EU where to place the Paxo.

:lol: :lol:

 

 

Delbert ,

Your national cpc has no bearing on a driver cpc ,two different things altogether . If you already hold an hgv licence then you are covered for 5 years ,before you have to do your driver cpc . However if you do Not hold a current HGV licence ,then you will have to under go a driver cpc training course .