Beretta28g Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 I had my chainsaw test this week and passed :( unfortunatly somone who also took is test fell over when walking with the chain mooving, if he hadnt been wearing trousers he would not have had a leg..... what a ****. He failed. Beretta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boromir Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Didnt they teach him to have the chain brake on whenever moving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Nice one B, shame about the *** with you, never mind you get them :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodcock11 Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Congratulations on passing - a useful and worthwhile certificate to have! Tough on the other guy who does not understand safety but at least the course has taught him to wear proper chainsaw trousers and maybe he will now learn to put on the chain brake. I had a bounce of the saw last week and the chain just nicked my trousers - was I glad I was wearing the proper kit - like seatbelts, drink driving etc, no one thought about safety and responsibility in the 1970s when I started to drive and use a chainsaw - so in this respect at least - now is better and progress has been made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodcock11 Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 What a complete lunatic - why did they not boot him off the course? If he is employed by someone, he is a total liability and should not be allowed near a chainsaw! He could end up well and truly legless and if his attitude extends to how he uses the saw, he is a danger to all around him. Bet you are glad not to see him again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted March 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 The only trouble is i have to be on a course with him till july as the saw test was a mini course inside a big course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 (edited) I was sat outside the Slug and Lettuce in Harpenden and watched a council van (one with the mesh back on it) pull up, two guys get out and start sizing up a big branch hanging off a very large tree. Anyway, a few minutes later, the ladder was up and he was chainsawing away... Something told me that he really shouldn't have put the ladder on the branch he was hacking away at with the chainsaw.... *Snap* the branch broke and the weight that was relieved from the branch made it pull up, moving well clear of the ladder resting against it and a man, chainsaw and ladder came crashing down. Unbelievably, no one got hurt. Well done on passing. I can now understand why people are made to do these exams now...! Edited March 7, 2010 by harfordwmj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodcock11 Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Try and get him chucked off the course - he is obviously useless and a liability to all instructors included! Is it all on chainsaws or are you doing even more dangerous stuff like telehandlers, fork lift trucks, diggers, tracked vehicles etc where the big toys can really cause damage. The best of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyr8 Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 instructor can,t be doing his job very well,chuck him of the course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted March 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Well im on a keepering course so quads, cf rifles, tractors, and all the usual keepering kit inc oxycetalinte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodcock11 Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 As I thought, plenty of opportunities for mayhem & destruction. Who would employ this muppet as a keeper - if you know where he works maybe a word from you or your boss in his boss's ear might work wonders and calm down his testosterone - its not funny having to study/work alongside someone like him - what do the other people on your course think - if you all complained maybe someone woud take notice. Anyone else got any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodcock11 Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 [and congratulations to pyr8 on his post number 1000 - I wil be at least eighty before I get there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted March 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 On our beaters day the rest of our course were allowed to walk and shoot, he wasnt for saftey reasons, he complained to his parents and our lecturer had the world decend on him from great height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnut Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 instructor can,t be doing his job very well,chuck him of the course. An Instructors can inform the person on the correct use of a piece of equipment,, the person using it need to remember what they have been instructed to do, and more importantly actually put what they've learnt into practice, unfortunately some people never follow instructions. Hopefully the person in question has learnt his lesson, and it will be a mistake he will never do again, he will now tell any one he sees doing what he did not do do it that way. Unfortunately some people only learn by mistakes. A typical example would be that "We all recieved instructions on how to drive a car, we were all tested by an examiner, but, hand on heart how many of us now actually drive the way we were taught" If we had to take a driving test tomorrow, would you pass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boromir Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Come on guys its as much fault of the instructor than it is the operater as he should know if he was safe and competant enough to go through the test. Asking him to get chucked of the course is wrong some people learn at a different pace. Going through a chainsaw test is as much nerve racking as a driving test and as with a driving test you forget things but the instructor should of drilled it into his head about the safety features of a chainsaw and when to use it etc. Everyone who uses a chainsaw has a close shave once in there life I have and hope it will be the last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodcock11 Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 The post has now gone but I saw it said that this guy was ridiculing those who wore safety clothes and that they were for wimps - that is why he should go. Anyone can make a mistake and that is not the reason to chuck him off. Beretta thinks he is a liability and it is not fair on others to have to always watch their backs against this person. IF and it is a big IF he has learnt his lesson, then the problem is solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyr8 Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 never saw the first part of the post.don,t believe anybody should be ko.d for one mistake but if it,s as you say and the guy is a muppit the instructor should have a loud word(in private) with the lad.if that does not work he should be dropped from the course.it,s up to his employers what happens next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 (edited) It is very scary what can happen the worst thing I saw was in the storms of I think 87 . The farm I was on lost loads of large beech the old timer I was helping was cutting a beech and inside was a old angle iron post that the tree had grow rounds. It kicked back over his shoulder and hit the back of his leg luckly the chainbreak had cut in before it hit his leg. Here is a picture of my beast of a saw a stihl av84 125 cc engine with the smaller 36 inch guide fitted I do have a 48 inch guide but rarely use it. You want safety gert on using this boy. Regards OTH Edited March 7, 2010 by Over the hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted March 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 The eirlier post in question was deleted because of swearing references. The just of it was that he had never had a accident could not be bothered with ppe and also thought that i could not use a chainsaw. I proved him wrong. He can be a liability, and also very dangerous at times especially with hand eye coordination especially where muzzles are concerned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 I've done the chainsaw course and obviously its easy if you've been using one for years however many on the course picked one up for the first time on the first day. safety and safe use is largely common sense but you can teach about kickback and how to cut timber under tension etc but few listen well enough to take it all in and never make a mistake. Whether its a serious mistake is largely down to luck, I know a tree surgeon and he's cut himself about 4 times now thats with doing all the courses etc just being too thick to understand the basics. I'm guilty of not wearing enough PPE a lot of the time but you certainly go out with safety in mind rather than relying on the PPE which is a very bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 (edited) I've done the chainsaw course and obviously its easy if you've been using one for years however many on the course picked one up for the first time on the first day. safety and safe use is largely common sense but you can teach about kickback and how to cut timber under tension etc but few listen well enough to take it all in and never make a mistake. Whether its a serious mistake is largely down to luck, I know a tree surgeon and he's cut himself about 4 times now thats with doing all the courses etc just being too thick to understand the basics. I'm guilty of not wearing enough PPE a lot of the time but you certainly go out with safety in mind rather than relying on the PPE which is a very bad idea. I am also guilty of this in that I wear gloves, eye protection and ear protection but don't wear the trousers, and frankly the only poor excuse I have is that I use my saw mainly for cutting limbs to log size and I'm not usually felling trees or cutting windfall under tension. if i was to start doing alot of the above I will invest in the trousers though. Gixer Edited March 8, 2010 by gixer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8landy Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 rather than relying on the PPE which is a very bad idea. PPE is always a last resort, not the first line of protection. In my industry (petro chemicals) we always progress to change so that PPE is the very final option. There are some people you could kit out in all the PPE going and they could still injure them selves with the pen when writing their name on the PPE sign out form Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 PPE is always a last resort, not the first line of protection. In my industry (petro chemicals) we always progress to change so that PPE is the very final option. There are some people you could kit out in all the PPE going and they could still injure them selves with the pen when writing their name on the PPE sign out form This is the very same industry I am in, and it is always - Change the process (which in this case cannot be done) Substitute (which again cannot be done) engineering control (which could be done but expensive) PPE..... Chain saw use is a difficult one.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 technique is what it is all about. When you're on the ground correct technique stops most potential problems. Always holding on with two hands sounds simple but stops most issues. Not cutting near your legs and watching your feet isn't that difficult a skill to master. They are one thing where you can never be complacent, know the rules and stick to them and you'll be very unlucky to have an accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon_snIPer Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Texas Chainsaw Massacre - wonder if the chap went thru a safety course as well :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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