grouse2008

never actually had a pellet hit me surprisingly but most seasons i have pellets zinging past whilst beating, and at one shoot the guns were warned that a beater would be in the game covert on the hill brow, that was very close!! Had a friend who shot at a partridge near some telephone wires and the ricochet was hard enough to break the skin on his forehead, very lucky it wasnt his eye, and his head has a thick bone layer! Bled quite well!!

try www.pubs.myfunforum.org free of charges or www.nobs.org.uk only a fiver pa

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www.nobs.org.uk £5 pa ********** free of charges

and another!!

Torngate evevelyn has whelped to my choc lab which I fostered and do not have papers for, the dam is registered and has many ftchs in her pedigree, working both beating and picking up and both have wonderful temperaments, I shall work the choc this season even though he came totally untrained. 1 black dog, 3 yellow dogs, 2 yellow bitches priced very reasonably to ensure valued in good working homes but will be great pets too. looking for £100 as not registered will be flead and wormed vaccination by purchasers vet as I have found they all use different vaccination products! I live on a farm nr malmesbury wiltshire, just 10 miles from junct 17 m4 chippenham, post code sn16 9ex contact by pm

try www.nobs.org.uk £10 pa for shoots or you may like the free ones: www.shootpics.co.uk www.pubs.myfunforum.org I beat or pick up at shoots where I get paid nothing to £30 per day, just love them all, they all have their various attractions

I will email Tug details of all the people I know who have heard nothing from NOBS too, many have paid and heard nothing, until their subscription is due. He will be kept busy unless there is a probl;em in their administrative set up.

www.nobs.org.uk £5 fee www.pubs.myfunforum.org free no need even to register

anyone wanting to go beatig should look at www.nobs.org.uk (£5 for members, £10 for shoots) or www.pubs.myfunforum.org( FREE)

Try www.nobs.org.uk shoots £10 pa, or www.pubs.myfunforum.org FREE

SACS reads good on there website , ie . cover for all shooting , beating , hunt following etc all things i do , but not many people have heard of them and there website is so incomplete its a joke to say they,ve been going since 1994. There has been a debate on the SACS cover regarding the cover for beasters who may get paid either cash or a brace of birds and the person who set up this insurance has stated that any payment will render the cover invalid. Check with your household insurers they may offer cover

who mentioned NOBS? I can only read a reference to PuBS www.pubs.myfunforum.org they got me picking up quickly and its services are free.

google shootpics, there are comprehensive articles on beating and picking up there, if it aint in there it aint worth knowin.

As soon as people pay money for something then their expectations are raised. NOBS paid some £13,000 for computer hardware and software to record members, shoots etc but their office is only manned by a volunteer, who also happens to be the sole shareholder, mondays to fridays 9.00am until 2.00pm. It is a limited company with a Board of Directors, not elected by people paying fees, and their accounts show a turnover of some £24,000per annum in total from all sources, which indicates that they do not have 9,000+ paid up members. PuBs is an informal forum which operates 24/7. relying on shoots and people posting vacancies and actually liaising between themselves to fill vacancies, thus it does not need a massive database, membership is not even required to use it. Good news is that it works quite well. At one shoot where I personally beat there were 4 beaters sourced via PuBS, at another half the team were found by PuBS. You pays yer money or not it seems. At the end of the day the main point is to get people, especially younger people for there lies our sports future, out with us in enjoying countrysie pursuits.