VikingRebel

My reasonable excuse is and always will be, "for entirely lawful and peaceful purposes, constable".

Wish we had a few folk like that in our town. I know of a drug dealer in my area who has been going for years, he barely even hides the fact and most in the town know exactly who and what he is. Inspite of all this, he's never once been arrested. I don't know whether it's because the police are scared of being branded "racist", him being of the non-European persuassion, or if they are on his payroll, but for some reason the law just never touches him. So as a result he is free to cruise around in his shiny BMW and ensure that all the pubs are full of paranoid and aggressive cokeheads.

EU logic. "Hey guys, we're from the EU government and we're here to help you. As you may know, Europe is potentially facing the worst terrorist campaign in recent history from an enemy already armed to the teeth with weapons that are already banned, so for your own safety, we are going to ensure that you are rendered even more defenceless than you currently are."

And how do you fancy your chances with NOTHING against an AK47?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3074951/Socialist-siege-Downing-Street-Hard-left-activists-clash-police-following-David-Cameron-s-triumphant-return-Number-10.html *****.

Would they even need to use guns at all? Look at the Lee Rigby killing, the public just stood around gawking at the scene, nobody made any attempt whatsoever to disable the attackers, even though any one of them could have been next. A gang of Jihadis could just as easily get bunch machetes and axes and march down a busy street butchering whomever they please, and nobody would do a damn thing to stop them. Some would probably stand there filming it on their phones whilst an axe is flying towards their head.

When I first read that article, I thought, "what kind of person would come up with such nonsense?" Then I saw this picture of the head teacher responsible, and everything became clear...

America does have social services, but who would dare go near that hornet's nest? I personally know of Irish traveller families here in the UK who are not much different to this American bunch. But again, a hornet's nest the authorities generally don't like to go near.

That's a no brainer. But the problem is I don't really have any faith in the Tories to protect shooting either. Lets not forget that most of the draconian firearms laws we have to put up with now were introduced under their watch. UKIP are now the only viable party for shooters, in my opinion. I think at the very least they would keep the status quo, possibly even restore some of our long lost rights and freedoms (a man can live in hope, can't he?). Definitely don't look to the Dribbly Democrats or worse yet the Greens to protect your pursuits.

Yeah, "lost". I think government should come with warning labels. "Warning, may lead to institutional paedophilia, war, poverty, police state, loss of finances, loss of freedom, loss of hope. Empathy, morality and common sense not included".

Assuming it is true that people can't be trusted and need protecting from themselves, why on Earth are we still allowed to buy petrol and matches without any prior certification, permission, training or registration? The only prerequisite being money and jerry can. Surely this is a recipe for absolute disaster and chaos, considering petrol's far greater destructive potential than just about any firearm on Earth (barring perhaps a grenade launcher)? And yet despite easy access to this dangerous substance, we don't see teachers torching entire schools full of kids after having a "bad day", we don't see disputing neighbours torching each others houses, we don't see sadistic nutters lobbing petrol bombs into crowded high streets, we barely even see any petrol related accidents and injuries. It's almost as if people can infact be trusted to handle extremely dangerous things without ever doing anything stupid or endangering themselves or others, and without the government holding their hand. It might sound counter intuitive to our modern nannied society, but I believe excessively regulated environments that absolve people of their personal responsibility will only end up breeding irresponsible people ("I don't need to think anymore, the state does that for me now"), who are far more dangerous to themselves and society than those who grow up in a more unregulated environment where responsibility for your life and your choices rests soley with you and common sense is quickly learned or else you get hurt. It's a terrifying self fulfilling prophecy in a way. The more people are nannied and regulated, the more stupid and flighty they tend to become (and I have seen this occur in people with my own eyes), thus they require even more nannying and regulation, repeat ad infinitum.... or until society totally collapses into itself. Anyway, that's my late night ramble done with. Hope I am making at least some sense to people.

Apologies mate, but don't worry I know they are not your words. I have taken your name off the quote.

So I guess that mass shooting in Cumbria by Derrick Bird a couple of years back, was just a figment of our imagination then?

Or move away from the UK entirely to a more civilised country where citizens are treated like adults.