GingerCat

no protecting us, more like they responded with the info available, dammned if u do dammed if u don't. Would't like to have been the sneaky smoker when it came out though.

If in doubt ask to see id and if still in doubt best call the plod to check, they wont mind, happens all the time. Please dotn ask them to pop the warrant card through the door, it won't happen, up agaisnt a window or spyole or whatever works just fine. If they really wanted to get in they wouldn't be knocking so nicly so don't worry about that. Plod dont mind waiting for people to check them out as long as there is nothing naughty going on. After all we get paid to stand at the door waiting. ATB

Being armed or not had nothing to do with me joining the job, would be nice if there was the odd comment about the Police doing a good job for once, we're not all corrupt incompetent untrustworty etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc freemasons with large egos who cant spell our own names and were bullied as a child with inbred families and no knowledge whatsoever of any sort of firearm ever devised who cant shoot a barn door at 2 paces and only joied to pick on motorists. In fact i would estimate your job prospects as a few seconds if you were that way inclined. Would it have helped in the recent incidents, who knows, guessing is a dangerous game. off to bed. all the best

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Don't do anything stupid... In fact drop me her number and I will pop over and sort it all out for u. Lucky bigger...........

What a great idea!!!! Licence them and then when that's not complied with hold an amnesty and then ban them. When this is done why don't we ban all sharp pointy things as well. We could start with folks and knives. After that we could move on...... Maybe cricket bats and hockey pucks. Who knows what someone might get up to with that. In between we could deal with all sgc and fac's too. After all if u have to licence air guns then these are unnecessary and far too dangerous. just like hand guns. Start small aim big. Do we need these polls? How about stricter car licences? Or bike licences? Can't remember the last fatal car crash I went to but there's been a few bikes that werent very lucky... I dare say a few were speeding too. Let's deal with that while we are at it eh? But then I don't even need to tell u I have one do I... But an airgun would. Moving on we could do kitchen knives followed by bows and arrows nd catapults. All nasty bits of kit. Ban lead too as it might hurt you. In a few years we could all meet up in our cotton wool suits on our rubber pavements. Sorry for the rant but I can't remember, oh that's right its never happened yet at least in the last decade, of having to deal with a legally held firearm including an airgun in my professional capacity. Can't print the rest Gc

Challenges this, you can prove secure storage, reason to have one and experience. The threat of high court should sort this out given your experience as a small arms instructor. Will the BASC sponsor this as a test case perhaps? Its clear that FEO's think twice when court comes up after all there is a frame work laid down in law and home office guide lines that trumps any local policy. No one is above it and only a high court judge will settle it As an apwt and rco you will have experience of high ME weapons systems and full automatic fire that don't really compare to shooting a rabbit with a silenced .22 even if they ping about a lot. As for comments about not being able to judge the safety of a .22 in the field against for example a.7.62 belt fed gimpy or 5.56 NATO I find this absurd. Safety is important and clearly, provided you are correct in your qualifications, can evidence this easily. All the best.

I found chest shots were a waste of time with .22 sub 12ftlbs. Head, neck or from behind and base of neck were my fav's or the only i would get was a good sounding impact with a few feathers and the flying kebab was off. There chest is practically armoured (imho) vs a sub fac gun.

it does exist you know, a bit sparse these days, but its there. as for the .177 v .22. i've always liked .177 but somehow end up with 12 bores, figure that out, i cant. All the best

Can't see a problem with it myself, lets face it you are fishing, the knife is in the tackle box and your clearly sensible to this or you would have it out or whatever, that would satisy me, im not every copper, but i wouldn't mind that you have it in your fishing tackle, the reality is though, how would i know you had it unless you were doing something to make me have a a look? We're only human (and some of us do know the law a little bit better than you might think. all the best

Nice knife but lets get to the question here; the rules on knives and knife carrying are really simple, unless it as folding (not lockable, not even a little bit!!) and the blade is under 3 inches in length (thats the cutting edge btw) then you need a "good reason" to have it in public. There are standard defences such as education, religion and work, other than that you have to convince the copper there and then that you have good reason, if you are trecking across miles of woodland with your camping gear etc etc then you might, might, just have reason, hunting is an example that should be fine to justify "good reason" on private land of course. Having it on my belt whilst i take the scenic route to the pub with my better half just incase i come across some firewood that i might like to take home or whatever would not count. Walking on the downs and pickign blackberris would also not count. Its up to you what you feel is good reason, but consider that the copper will see a young lad with a knife that, to be fair could skin someone with little worries, and he needs good reason, he will probably arrest you and let the magistrates decide, i would, and have. No one wants to let someone keep a knife for them to go on to kill someone a few minutes of even months later, when the stewards enquirey comes (it will) it wont look good for his future (rather short lived now) job prospects and is easily preventable. I would suggest though that if you are trekking about the place and staying on private land, the knife in the bottom of your bag, then you probably will ok, but its an iffy probably, and besides why do you need such a knife for treking? i didnt often use a knife like that in the forces let alone the woods (might have been nice though). The coppers will also need a reason for stopping, speaking and searching you, best not to give them one. All the best

Just finished 1000 of them. they do kick a bit bit didnt find them too dirty. ok on the clays as thats all ive used them on.better than the express Hv fibre i was using and a fair bit cheaper.no misfires so far and gonna stock up on the same again at the weekend.

Not shot properly for a while (10 years). dropped in on an old farmer friend in lincs over easter seeing as she who must be obeyed has taken an interest in clay shooting and game (she cant be that bad i guess). he had thousands.i lived 100 yards way years ago and he never had that many. needles to say i got a permisson back. which was nice. hes growing peas this year which he has (to my knowledge) never done so that might have something to do with it.

hi all, my first post (been lurking for a while) so be gentle. In short, a formal caution and being cautioned (what the feo did!) are two different things. a caution is a couple of sentences warning YOU that YOU have a right to legal advice and whatever YOU say may be used in court. a formal caution is when you admit you did something illegal for example nickin an easter egg of your niece and you have been interviewed under caution with your legal rights explained. your normally asked if you understand these rights however this is not necessary and unless you are mentally impaired wont help if you later plead that you didnt understand them. To be convicted of an assualt you went to court, at court your either said yes i did it or were found guilty by either a JP or jury. You would then be sentenced. anything other than an absloute discharge is a conviction. even a fine. in relation to speeding it goes on the driver aka the driving licence. Not the registration number. in fact there is no way someone can be convicted of speeding or any other motoring offence and thir licence endorsed just on the registration number. at the very least a letter of intended prosecution would be sent out with an opportunity to reply. this would be to the registeted keeper as its your responsibility who drives it. if they dont have insurance and you allow them to drive its another offence for example. As to getting charged for not declaring a previous conviction and motoring offence then its up to the officer writing the report for the CPS. he could decide that you really did forget that 15 years ago you beat someone up and were found guilty in court and that your x drove the car and somehow you got punished for it and didnt say anything. or he could decide that you hid these facts to get a Sgc hoping they wouldnt find out. eitherway i doubt you would be charged. i struggle to see the offence and if that is made out the public interest in pursueing it. if they dont grant the sgc and dont charge you a day in HIgh court will sort it out either way asby.the sounds of it you have good reason,can no doubt secure the firearm (in a safe) and are suitable to possess one ie not prohibited a drunkard mentqlly unstable etc etc. best of luck. sorry for the typos on my phone.