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Ignore what facts? Everything being discussed happen after Russia invaded Ukraine, there would be no war if Russia had not invaded and there would be no war if Russia pulled out. Of course there are other complex issues, but stripped back, the reason there is a war, is due to a Russian invasion.

All this toing and froing over who did what and who's to blame. There's only one side that invaded the other and if that side pulls out, the war would end immediately. In my view that gives you the answer.

I certainly don't think it's exclusive to dog owners. You will find selfish people from all walks of life in every town and city from every country around the globe.

The force as a collective was wrong yes, the officer pulling the trigger, in that moment without having the hindsight you and I have the luxury of, from what I've seen, I don't see what else they could have done and even with hindsight, you still haven't stated what you'd have done differently?

That's convenient for you, you know that they were wrong but offer no alternative. Don't forget it goes both ways, you can be held accountable for inaction to.

Wales needs to get reform into the Senedd ASAP. I've never seen such lunacy! https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/wales-announces-plan-ban-dogs-34115808.amp1

Thank god your not an armed cop. I can't make heads or tails what that means and I'm not convinced you do either.

Go on then ordnance, here's one for you. The UK has just had 52 people killed in bombings across London, your sent to stop an individual you and your colleagues believe is a bomber likely with a suicide vest on and he's just got on a train full of people. You've got an order that unless there's a very good reason not to, that you must shoot him on sight to prevent him carrying out his plan and you have caught up with him on the train, where the surveillance officer who's been following him identifies him as the bomber, you order him to stand still but he comes at you. What do you do?

My thoughts exactly. I think some people can't get past the fact they already know the outcome and can't help using some of that in their version of 'logical' thinking, rather than thinking strictly from the position of the officer and only using the information he had at the time.

Let's break down what you've said. "they wouldn’t accept me on grounds I would never shoot someone just on the say so of someone else" Well, thank god we have people that would, I imagine it must be one of the most difficult things you could ask of someone. The order must mean along the lines of you must shoot this person, we don't have time or can't share all the information, but if you don't shoot this person, people (probably many) will very likely die. What a terrible situation to be in! "don’t lie due to the effort involved" Name a profession that has no one that lies? "and would refuse to leap about screaming while waving a firearm about" Again, thank god we do, what do you propose, excuse me Mr terrorists, could I trouble you to put your guns and explosives down if its not too much trouble, don't worry, I have this gun but I won't really use it! "like an accident waiting to happen" By the virtue of the danger of a situation to require an armed response, it will always carry high risks. What's your alternative solution, allow dangerous people to act with impunity? "and I’m not keen on joining an organisation that employs murderers rapists child sex offenders either! " Another silly statement, I have no idea how many people are employed as police officers but all organisations will have bad apples, are you suggesting the police as an organisation tolerates it, because if you are, my opinion is you have a ridiculous opinion!

I'm sure you would handle these incidents much better. I'm taking nothing from the tragic loss of life from an innocent man but hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I think a lot of the public lack the understanding of being in a dynamic life or death situation. I'm sure It's not like the movies where everything is obvious and the officers are virtually super heroes abale to think and act in super human fashion. Police officers are people just like everyone else, yes specialist firearms officers have done extensive training which obviously helps, but they are still going to be subject to the same imperfections everyone else is and therefore can only do the best they can in whatever situation they are thrown in to. The bottom line in my opinion is some people have unrealistic expectations of what can be achieved and the risks involved in any armed operation.

Both common sense and humanity is being lost from our society. No one is an individual anymore. The above case is utterly shocking.

On the subject of births, I find it no supprise at all. The UK like many western countries has lost its traditional values, with girls wanting to build their own careers, not wanting to get married or be house wives, which is of course up to them to decide. But by far the biggest shift is the cost of living, unaffordable housing and the complete inability to afford to live of one or one and a half wages and comfortably raise a family. I believe we should install an Australian style points system l, encourage apprenticeships and financially encourage marriage and having children, as well as vastly increased funding for fertility for those who have paid into the system only. If we don't, we won't just shift the values of the UK as has always happened over time, but we are going to totally loose touch with the UKs culture and society over the next few generations.

If true, I take it back. I've heard nothing about it. I think a read up is in order. I would be genuinely surprised if Trump was involved in that. He strikes me as someone who can be a narcissist, blunt, offensive to anyone that disagrees with him, but genuinely not racist at all.