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  1. Done with this thread lads, it's no longer productive. I'm sure we've all got other stuff to be cracking on with rather than point scoring. Appreciate all the responses
  2. No mate, read the rest of the post "was just giving a bit of insight into why people over-think this". I was saying that these may be some of the specifics that those who analyse it might ask themselves. I've also said a few times now that I concede, that I was just giving an insight and that I've stopped over-thinking it. The only reason I've explained this is because according to you you're failing to understand why people "try shortcuts" or "over think" things ("Why people insist on over complicating things I just don’t know"). Getting a bit daft this thread now.
  3. Entirely missed the point of my post. No worries though - I can't really be bothered continuing this, it's gone on a bit now - to reiterate, was just giving a bit of insight into why people over-think this, which is what you said you were confused about. Appreciate the replies nonetheless, all helpful for someone like me relatively new to the sport.
  4. I was letting this thread die, since I got the impression people were getting sick of the angle my question was coming from, but since it's been revived, I'll explain why I, and maybe others, tend to think in depth about things like this (whether that's 'over' thinking is subjective). I think shooting's great for me personally because (as you can see from the lesson I've learnt in this thread), it teaches you to stop thinking so much - and it's in my nature to think about intricate details, which is why I'm good at my job. The only thinking you need to do all happens before you even step up to the stand (hold point, general flight path of the bird etc.). After that, you're supposed to intentionally fallback on what you already have the instinct to do, subconsciously almost. Great, the ideal approach, but if you're not hitting the clays - saying "stop over-thinking" to somebody used to working things through doesn't work. Especially when there are most definitely variables that affect shooting success, that's a fact - tricky to ignore that when you're missing. Why wouldn't I want to get a grip of those variables to improve my game? "Just practice" - ok, will do, practice what exactly though? "Sight picture you prefer" - well surely 'optimal' is a wiser choice than 'preferred'? "Dialling it in is unnecessary" - well, if I'm choosing a sight picture on preference, then I'll need to compensate (dial it in) obviously. I'm not saying you're wrong, on the contrary I'd bet you're a far far better shot than me, and in fact I've conceded - I've stopped picking apart my approach in this way (and don't have much more enthusiasm left for discussing in this thread). I'm just givin you an insight into how it's hard not to be analytical for people who are usually very analytical. Everyone's different.
  5. What's the most expensive gun you shot with?

    https://www.guntrader.uk/guns/shotguns/longthorne/over-under/12-gauge/the-hesketh-deluxe-171121151008001 Pretty special.
  6. What's the most expensive gun you shot with?

    I have a bettinsoli too, it's a cheap gun - but for the reasons you described in your last sentence, I can't say I'm in a rush as such to upgrade. Still, I love the look of some of the 'up-market' guns, wouldn't mind a go of a few.
  7. Title. I'm kind of new to the sport, so my experiences have all been with club guns or my own (relatively) affordable gun, but I wouldn't mind shooting 50 with a H&H royal or longthorne, if only for the looks alone.
  8. Merseyside Shotgun Grant

    Thanks for sharing, mate. A good mate of mine is looking to apply soon, I'll share this thread with him to give him a heads up on the wait. Good luck with it, I imagine it'll be March before you know it
  9. going rate for instruction

    From the few posts I've seen you seem like the right guy for the job. Pretty patient in the other thread and helped me improve my shot and I haven't even met you so I'm sure you'll do well as a paid instructor. Let me know if you ever do lessons in the North West mate.
  10. Just a little rant....this time.

    Maybe I'm paranoid and (again!) over-thinking things, but I like to do things by e-mail, you have a paper trail that way of commitments that have been made. Further still (but this definitely is my paranoia), I have an app for recording calls on my android called ACL. When things heat up a bit, I always let them know I'm recording my calls for training and monitoring purposes. If it's good enough for them.... EDIT: I guess the above's probably irrelevant, since they're not denying what they claimed they'd do, they're just blatantly saying they go back on their word. Idiots mate.
  11. Well I think it's only fair I post an update and concede. I cancelled plans I had today and went to Worsley to redeem myself from a bad shoot on Sunday which I was losing sleep over. Decided to totally forget about the gun and really try and fall back to instinct and pointing rather than thinking and aiming. I've just had the best shoot i've ever had, and worsley has some challenging birds. Appreciate your replies, it's quite obvious my tendency to over think things takes away from my instinct to shoot well as you say. Thanks
  12. My point is that this is valid at certain distances is it not? Since I'll be shooting higher on closer clays? Basically, I was shooting with no rib, and hitting the clays left, right and centre. But noticed on the further clays, the idea of blotting out a clay from a distance didn't work since I needed to see the path of the clay I was trying to shoot! So I started mounting my gun to see a bit of rib, and coincidentally it's more comfortable. But now it's at an angle, which I think is giving me more problems. The general consensus here is to stop thinking about it and just shoot, but from a practical sense what does that mean I do next time I go out? I'm even starting to annoy myself now, and it seems like I'm being stubborn with this for the sake of it but I'm just thinking, how should the gun fit? What is my sight picture and where is that clay in my sight picture when I pull the trigger? I reckon they're very real questions. I've had a few lessons, when I seen no rib I done well on them, so no faults were picked up on - but it wasn't ideal making the clays disappear on every target (as opposed to just the driven/rising ones). ------------------------- Btw, thanks for all the replies so far! Appreciate the wisdom of shooters that are obviously better than me, I don't mean to seem impatient, just trying to work out what's what.
  13. Got it in one, I'm a software engineer so I make a living from over-thinking things. But if I'm hitting a blocker and not managing to smash targets - then I'm bound to look at analysing it a bit at least.
  14. I definitely get this, and I'm at a level where I also don't consciously focus on the bead, but I'm aware of where it is in relation to the target, since this will determine whether I need to bring my gun up to meet it or, basically, where I should be looking then to place the shot.
  15. How will he tell if it's a good gun fit? Does it not matter where it's pointing?
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