Edward Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Im thinking about swapping my stingray (old type) for a bsa lightning Xl (maybe a tactical) Any opinions of the Lightning? Thanks :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneshotkiller Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 A friend of mine has one , they are a very good piece of kit however a strip down and polish is a must i feel to get the best from these , or even a gas ram :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud9 Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 i have had both the webley stingray mkll and the lightening lx both great guns but saying that i had been sold an fac lightening by mistake lol but still was great for the 3 week i had it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rascal_2005 Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 i have an xl and i find it great, its short and tight so i shoot well with it. but thats just me. john boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slingshot Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 (edited) i Have a lightning xl .22 recently purchased on here from Mark (markio) and as oneshotkiller says with a strip polish and proper lube and you have a winner with AA field 16 grn i can easy clover leaf with 5 shots standing at 25yds and with RWS hobbies i think 12grn takes bunnies at 45-50yds one shot kill not too heavy to lug about for a few hours and short enough to be shot from inside the car (Discovery) all in all a brill little gun some may disagree and they are entitled to their opinion but for me and many others BRILL one thing i would also recommend is a one piece mount being quit lite for a springer they do dance a little even when tuned but as with most springers let it do its thing don't try to tame it and it will deliver the goods every time (almost ) it can out shoot me thats for certain and at a reasonable price even new but then this is only my opinion best bet is find someone near you who dosnt mind you having a few shots best of luck Andy :look: Edited October 15, 2009 by slingshot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris o Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 i had a xl for 4 years and it was the best air rifle i have ever shot. and i swear by them. need cleaning regularly but what gun does not and they are a real hardy gun. and are defonatly worth the money they cost. but brill gun. and i would defonatly get another if i wanted another air gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Posted October 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Thanks for the replys :look: atm I am trying to decide whether to get an fac and a .22lr or just get an XL and pop a decent scope onto it and a gas ram :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George1990 Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 You know you want an FAC :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud9 Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 You know you want an FAC :blink: i do want an fac but i need to persuade the mrs :blink: :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Posted October 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 You know you want an FAC :blink: :blink: Think I might wait :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntercarbine Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 just remember mate not all permissions are cleared for fac, or suitable for example barn shooting. i'd get a secondhand xl, you see loads for sale, then spend the big bucks on a fac. best of both worlds. good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 (edited) I'm the opposite. I think spend the money on a better air rifle and buy a cheap .22! You can get some fine shooting .22s for £100 or so. I found my Lightning hard to shoot well, couldn't get a good group. It's too light and jumpy IMO. Have you considered a PCP? My Air Arms S200 would hit a 5p every time at 30 yards. I could reguarly hit the ember off of a cigarette and get the pellet clean through the middle of an M8 washer at 25! Edited October 16, 2009 by njc110381 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntercarbine Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 I'm the opposite. I think spend the money on a better air rifle and buy a cheap .22! You can get some fine shooting .22s for £100 or so. I found my Lightning hard to shoot well, couldn't get a good group. It's too light and jumpy IMO. Have you considered a PCP? My Air Arms S200 would hit a 5p every time at 30 yards. I could reguarly hit the ember off of a cigarette and get the pellet clean through the middle of an M8 washer at 25! not being an fac holder i didnt realise you could get a .22 so cheap. in that case i agree, i'd get the best pcp you can afford and a cheaper firearm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexr Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 If you go for a PCP don't forget to factor in the cost of the filling kit :blink: Could be as much as another £250 :blink: or as little as £ 150 :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Posted October 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 If you go for a PCP don't forget to factor in the cost of the filling kit :blink: Could be as much as another £250 :blink: or as little as £ 150 :blink: If I were to get a pcp would I just need a stirrup pump and a connector thingy :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power ranger Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 :blink: Great rifles the XL, but some people do struggle with grouping ! You have to learn to shoot a springer ilke the XL. Holding the rifle correctly, squeezing the triger slowly and controlled (dont snatch it), breathing, follow through with the shot and lots and lots of practice will give mega results with the XL :blink: PCP's are much more acurate due to no recoil but as mentioned charging gear is at a cost I have a air cylinder and pump to the tune of 300 quid :( could have 2 springers for that money My dad had a XL for some time and could group in a 5p easily at 30 yards it just takes practice :blink: The BSA XL is a top class quality uk springer that can out shoot its equivelants and can cost half the price ! :blink: 10 out of 10 for XL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiiithy Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 I've got a .22 XL Tactical - cracking gun. I'm getting it tuned by Steve Pope and V-mach and a V-mach spring fitted instead of a gas ram. £125 for the tune, but from I've read it's well spent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Posted October 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Any views on the Umarex 850 AirMagnum :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntercarbine Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Any views on the Umarex 850 AirMagnum yes mate, being a co2 gun the power reduces in cold weather, and if you fire in quick succession. The bolt can stick, and certain pellets wont fit in the magazine, too long. Louder than a pcp. I would rather have a lightning xl or hw95k than one of these, by a long way. If you can handle a heavy gun, have a look at the tx200, i had one and it is the best spring powered gun available. You should be able to get a pcp and stirrup pump for the price of an 850 airmagnum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George1990 Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 TX200 is sweet. I have the older MkII version, which I think is better than the MkIII. It is heavy, but shoots good and has a lovely trigger from new. The Mk2 has more bear-trap engagements, which reduces the chance of the lever flicking back up. It also fires more smoothly (this is the case between my Mk2 and my dad's Mk3 anyway). Can pick up a 2nd hand one at a good price too. I got a bargain - as new gun (fires less than 250 pellets), scope, slip and pellets for £150! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Posted October 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 My mate has a TX200hc mk2, very heavy but incredible to shoot with for 15 quid more than a Xl tactical I can actually get a ruger 10/22, might go for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron airgunner Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 in my opinion keep the stingray, there good guns. lightings fall apart to easily and kick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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