A.McCormick Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 (edited) just ondering if any one had heard of or has a baikal zh 301. i got one from my local gunroom and is the only one like it ive ever seen will post a pic as soon as i can. thanx Alex :blink: http://photos.fotango.com/p/eba00536787f00000001.jpg http://photos.fotango.com/p/eba00536787f00000002.jpg Edited September 16, 2005 by A.McCormick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Baikals normally start with the nomenclature IZH, but even so a search through the Baikal site couldn’t find a IZH 301 or a ZH 301. What type of rifle/shotgun/airgun is it. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.McCormick Posted September 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 Its a 12b shotgun, over and under. its not on the baikal website. ye sorry i missed the I off the IZH. thanx alex :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Gatherer Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 I have seen the gun and had an incling that it may have been one of the pre-mass exportation guns, as before baikal started exporting guns they were reserved for use only by russias olimpic team members. This gun, although in no way a high grade gun, is of a higher grade than modern day baikals or the workhorses that first came into our country. When using the gun it is immideatley apparent that the action is not what you would decribe as everyday! but i cannot tell you any more than the top lever moves as you open the gun, because it is difficult to be able to see without stripping the gun. I am not sure if this matters at all but it appears to have "factory-fitted" sling swivels attached to the barrel and stock hope this is of help HG :blink: P.S I doubt that it accualy is one of the olimpic grades but who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.McCormick Posted September 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 (edited) Thanx mate. ye its a better quality gun then most baikals. and its 10 years old but never used so as you sed could quite possibly be one of the guns from before the workhorse baikals came on the market. any one else got any idears. thanx Alex :( Edited September 13, 2005 by A.McCormick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 If the gun is only 10 years old, then its unlikely to have been made before Baikal started mass production (as suggested). Baikal flooded the market with cheaper shotguns (and cartridges), back in the 1970's. Why not email Baikal and see if you can get some better info from them. http://www.baikalinc.ru/eng/prod/rifle/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Are you sure it isn't an IZH 39 :( G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy22 Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Maybe it's the letters he's got wrong and it's a GSH-301 http://www.izhmash.ru/eng/product/gsh-301.shtml Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.McCormick Posted September 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 No i havent got it confuzed with an anti arcraft cannon. ist a baikal alrite. it also has a baikal sling. its full and full choke. o/u. and its the best quality Baikal i have ever seen. :( thanx Alex still working on the pic. should be up on thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 my baikal was made from two scaffold tubes welded together,some melted horse shoes and timber from the mary rose.all i have to do is look at it and it opens,if i could find an 18 yr old as loose id be a happy man. that said it never fails to do the job i bought it for and will easily out last me :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.McCormick Posted September 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Oh ye dont get me wrong all Baikals will do there job without fail. nothing goes wrong with the *******, they are hardy working guns. Alex :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 i too have a baikal, great gun, this one 25 years old presentation grade o/u 12g is a great walk about gun, dosent weigh much, non ejector so it dosent go wrong, double triggers, straight hand stock hand engraved. shot many a thing with it, but its being reserved for special days now or walked up game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.McCormick Posted September 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 (edited) Yes mine is also engraved. and has 2 trigers. a very nice pice. i agree Baikals' are not to be dissregared bye any one. fine guns. thanx Alex :( Edited September 15, 2005 by A.McCormick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 forgot to add that this is not to say all baikals are like this, ive seen some modern ones that could have been finished by monkeys. but they are what they are, and they still represent good cheap work horses, even if they wernt always just this way. built like bricks, and unfortuantly in modern days they are often built to about the same tollerances. this is not to say they still dont make fine guns every now and then. keep us posted if you discover what your gun is, maybe a photo might help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Gatherer Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 Alex, the sling aint baikal mate. I think that paul put it on just to compliment the sling swivels! HG :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.McCormick Posted September 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 (edited) . sorry people the picture wont be up untill tomoro. most baikals are very sturdy guns(the slightly older ones) . some of the spartan range are ok as well. Thanks Alex Edited September 20, 2005 by A.McCormick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davhope Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 I was taking to the gunsmith who fitted my gun and he told me that he has been in the trade 30 years and has never had to repair a baikal, How many other makers have that sort of reliability? Look forward to the piccys.............. Cheers Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.McCormick Posted September 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 (edited) pics finaly http://photos.fotango.com/p/eba00536787f00000001.jpg http://photos.fotango.com/p/eba00536787f00000002.jpg Edited September 16, 2005 by A.McCormick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Great knock about guns. I had a single barrel choked super full that was great for foxes and hares from the truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkBoy Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 I had a Baikal O/U that developed a tendency to let both barrels go at once, not nice...My local gunshop had no answer other than PX...Wot a surprise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 yes i know that model, it is avalible with rifle barrels as well, i know someone who uses one down at one of my clay shoots, unfortuantly im affraid to say it double detonates, so he has stopped using it bare in mind his is a bit of a bashed up old gun, and im sure yours will be fine, just thought you should know this as i have encountered this type of gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 dunganick, are you referring to the gun in A.McCormick's photographs ? If so, how have you identified it as being the same model ? I have owned and known of a few different Baikals over the years and have spent quite a bit of time trying to identify this model, since the question was first posted. I'm not questioning your comments, just trying to establish where your facts come from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 i recognise the very distinctive boxy shape just forward of the lever , and the shape of the side of the action, also that it has 2 triggers, also the barrel mounted sling (abviously copied on many guns, but just another matching feature). however, at this point i remeber that i believe the owner thought this gun was a brno this is deffinatly the same gun, its very recogniseable, but dont hold me to it that it is a brno, im going on someone else's word, which isnt to say he is right or wrong, just that im not certain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Mmmm, I don't think that the similarities are at all conclusive, but I can see what you mean. It does have the chunky action that was familiar with some of the early BRNO shotguns, but if it is clearly marked "Baikal", then thats what it is. Most European and Soviet Bloc shotguns had sling mountings and some still do. I also am not sure it has interchangeable rifled barrels, as its an under and over. Baikal produced quite a few combo weapons, with one rifled and one smooth bore barrel as under and overs, but the only double rifled barrels I have heard of, were side by side models and they weren't interchangeable. I am definitely not an encyclopedic reference point for Baikal shotguns, but I have done some homework on them over the years. This model intrigues me. Its a pity Hammergun hasn't been around for a while, he may have had an opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 its an intresting piece, if the guy has the gun this weekend i will get some pics, but due to the double detonation thing i doubt it will be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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