Stupid question on the way.

[tenbears10]

Ok I need some new cartridges for rough shooting. Last time I asked the guy in the shop what he recommended (big mistake). So now I'm asking poeple with no vested interest (you guys).

 

I think most people would recommend one of the pigeon carts but are these good for bunnies, crows and the odd phesant as well as pigeons?

 

I have been using 30g 7's and I see most of you use 6's so I think that is the way to go.

 

Now the stupid bit what exactly does the number 7 or 6 denote? I thought I knew but then people were talking about AA, BB, BBB :blink: :(

 

Thanks in advance

[Frank]

I find a No 6, an all round good cartridge.

Eley Alfamax are fairly good. :(

Edited September 15, 2005 by Frank

[Dunkield]

Gamebore Clear Pigeons are pretty good cheap cartridges, in 30 or 32G.

I use 6's as they give a big more wallop.

 

You can get drawn into pellet size versus chokes discussions that go on for ever and I am not going there!

 

I will try and find some words of visdom about pellet numbers and sizes, the Eley Diary is a great resource for stuff like that - and it doubles up as a diary :(

[tenbears10]

Not trying to stir Stuart just get an idea what 6's and 7's is all about.

 

My gun is fixed choke so no discussion there :(

 

Thanks for the advice so far guys.

[Dunkield]

Ok, what I meant to say was...

Everyone will have an opinion on what is the best shot size and calibre for a given type of shooting, and that can draw you away from the original question.

 

So here goes.

 

I managed to find this, it doesn't look like it formatted very well but here it is, I hope it is of some help.

 

The columns are, Shot size, diameter in INCHES and number of pellets per once.

 

AAA .20 35

BB .16 70

1 .14 100

3 .12 140

4 .11 170

5 .105 220

6 .10 270

7 .095 340

 

So you can see 7's have an extra 70 pellets more per once than 6's and are smaller diameter. They will tend to have less killing power at range but will be better for closer shots.

Edited September 15, 2005 by stuartp

[tenbears10]

Thanks that makes it clearer. I think 6's will be a benefit so I will give them a go.

[Whitebridges]

Eley do a 6.5 shot cartridge in 32g just to complicate things further.

[Country_est]

Re Shot size from stuartp

 

Think those sizes must be in inches.

 

BB = 0.16 isnt mm as there are bigger than that :( :blink:

[game_boy]

Just while were on the subject. I'm fairly sure on this but I have 5 chokes for my Browning whats the best two to use for pigeoning ?? Do you want it wide open by using the skeet and the one below ? or something the middle ? I take it the higher the number or fraction the wider the spread ??

[hawkeye]

While we are on the subject of stupid questions i have only been useing shotguns for last few months. So can anyone tell me what is the difference between 30g no 6 and 32g no 6 does the 32 have more weight of lead shot in it or is it for more powder :thumbs:?:thumbs: :( :blink:

 

PS and which one would you reccommend and why ?? B)

Edited September 15, 2005 by hawkeye

[Dunkield]

Trev,

 

Ok well spotted I will edit the original reply

 

 

Tenbears,

 

 

SEE WHAT I MEANT ABOUT CHOKES + CARTRIDGES :(

 

Could be a long afternoon!!

[Dunkield]

While we are on the subject of stupid questions i have only been useing shotguns for last few months. So can anyone tell me what is the difference between 30g no 6 and 32g no 6 does the 32 have more weight of lead shot in it or is it for more powder :thumbs:?:thumbs: :blink: B)

 

PS and which one would you reccommend and why ?? :thumbs:

I can tell you if you don't aim in the right place niether will work :(

[tenbears10]

Stuart I get what you mean now.

 

Hawkeye glad i'm not the only one. :(

[game_boy]

Ok thats great how about some answers ! AS for the 30g v 32g I would say that that the 32g is to do with powder thus giving the pellets a bigger punch coming out of the barrel.

[Dunkield]

So where is Jeremy Beadle waiting then?

 

28/30/32 etc Gram refers to the amount of lead (or whatever you are shooting)

 

32Grams of propelant would give you a kick you wouldn't forget for a while - if you survived it in the first place :(

Edited September 15, 2005 by stuartp

[game_boy]

Ah right i get you now. Does that mean more pellets or same number of pellets but they are just heavier ? What about the chokes how would you use them ?

[Country_est]

The 32g is number of grams of shot in your cartridge.

 

In OLD Money when I were a lad you would get

 

1 oz = 28g

1 1/8 oz = 32g

1 1/4 oz = 36g

1 7/8 oz = 53g = 3" Magnum size.

 

I have know idea how much powder is in these.... and whether it changes from the ammoung of shot.

 

 

 

Choke restrictions are

full = 40 thou of an inch. Marked as * or 1 slot or 1 something

3/4 = 30 **

1/2 = 20 ***

1/4 = 10 ****

cyl = 0 *****

 

Not sure what skeet is set to but could be 5 thou.

[henry d]

With powders it all depends what powder is in the cartridge as these vary with manufacturers,they also vary with the type of cartridge/wad/speed/pressure etc.etc.

You could fill pages with data about cartridge make up suffice to say don`t mess with it as they take no prisoners,if you`re lucky you get knocked on your ****,if not you lose your life :(

[tenbears10]

Ok i was confused to start with but one last thing, am I right thinking that the weight of shot is listed in metric (30 grams) and the size of each ball is in imperial (0.whatever of an inch)?

 

Clear as mud :(

[Dunkield]

It's a bit like 8' x 4' sheets of plaster and wood being 30mm thick - we haven't really embraced the metric system yet :(

 

Multiply the shot sizes by 25.4 and that will give you the diameter in mm's

 

Divide the shot weight by 28 and that will give the weight in onces