goldypurple Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 (edited) Something i was thinking about. not that i would do it How do the police monitor the ammo on a fac. i know they limit you to what you can hold of what calibre etc And a shop will write on your fac when youve bought it etc. but really what is stopping you digging a hole and putting it in, to get rid of it and uping your allowance because it too low etc. also the same dig a hole to put some in, to show that youve used your rifle within the 5 yrs etc Edited January 13, 2010 by goldypurple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 nothing at all, its not a perfect system but they can't tell if you use it after buying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albob Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 (edited) Something i was thinking about. not that i would do it How do the police monitor the ammo on a fac. i know they limit you to what you can hold of what calibre etc And a shop will write on your fac when youve bought it etc. but really what is stopping you digging a hole and putting it in, to get rid of it and uping your allowance because it too low etc. also the same dig a hole to put some in, to show that youve used your rifle within the 5 yrs etc i think it is more of a trust thing. al Edited January 13, 2010 by albob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 I would think it's all down to trust. If they did not trust you, you would not get your ticket. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triscrx Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Its not the biggest of their worries tbh how much ammo does a person need? if they didn't trust you with 1 round what differance is 50-1000 going to make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fo5ter Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 but really what is stopping you digging a hole and putting it in, to get rid of it and uping your allowance because it too low etc. also the same dig a hole to put some in, to show that youve used your rifle within the 5 yrs etc so YOU'RE the real IRA!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldypurple Posted January 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 lol i know it was stupid to ask but they seem so hot on everything else, so why not this lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez325 Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 dont go giving them any ideas' Les :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Its unenforceable, but yes if you aren't using enough ammo then it can be worth going out and doing some "target" practice to use some more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 but they seem so hot on everything else, so why not this lol How are they going to monitor it other than fitting webcams in your house? All I will say is that if you get cought with more than you are allowed be prepared to have the book thrown at you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 As Al4x said, how could you possibly prove how many rounds you'd fired? It's fairly common to take a rifle you don't use much to the range and hammer off 50 rounds. I do it just because if I haven't shot a gun for a while I get twitchy and want to play with it! Getting on to that subject, how many rounds are considered to be the minimum use? Ten rounds per year in a deer rifle for a pay per play stalker would be more than enough, but then with my little calibres I probably send off a thousand or more? Plus I home load and not all dealers record the sale of bullets. I've probably bought 40 rounds for my 6.5 since I got it two years ago, the rest have been home loaded and aren't entered! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 I got told at my last variation to use more HMR as I'd only used 250 in a year, whether thats just to maintain my hold amount I'm not sure but we're lacking rabbits recently so its not seen that much action. centrefire I'd imagine you could be using tiny amounts on a deer rifle but no idea when they say you aren't using it enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Seems to be one those odd FEO things Alex, the first thing mine asked at renewal time was 'have you used all your guns in the last year?' He ten commented on the lack of ammo on my certificate, I pointed out it had just come back after a variation, and showed him a scan of the ammo section from before it went back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 If you reload you might well be showing no ammo purchases at all. Thats why I always keep receipts for any components I buy, just in case. If you buy ammo at the range it doesn't have to be entered on your certificate as long as you use it on the range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Someone I know had a father in law, an old farmer, who rarely used his .22 rf but often bought a box or two of ammo to maintain his status as an 'active' shooter for the FEO. After his death they found over 18000 rounds locked up in various safes and cupboards around the place. Wouldn't surprise me if there are still some to be found. Seems to me that the law created rather than discouraged this situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Someone I know had a father in law, an old farmer, who rarely used his .22 rf but often bought a box or two of ammo to maintain his status as an 'active' shooter for the FEO. After his death they found over 18000 rounds locked up in various safes and cupboards around the place. Wouldn't surprise me if there are still some to be found. Seems to me that the law created rather than discouraged this situation? 18000 wow, I bet that shocked the local firearms department? Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Seems to be one those odd FEO things Alex, the first thing mine asked at renewal time was 'have you used all your guns in the last year?'He ten commented on the lack of ammo on my certificate, I pointed out it had just come back after a variation, and showed him a scan of the ammo section from before it went back. This is an interesting point. If you have had your FAC changed (i.e For a variation) when you get the certificate back there is a new sheet for the purchase of ammunition, so how do they know how many rounds you have purchased/used for whatever calibers you have? I have a habit of buying ammunition without asking for a receipt from various dealers according to what price they have it at, so I have no idea of exactly how many rounds I have purchased/used, I could only estimate the amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 The more I think about it the more this bothers me. I don't get my home loading stuff certificated or keep receipts. I haven't bought a 6.5 round for 18 months! I feel a heavy range day with cheap factory ammo coming on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 It sounds like the FEO could revoke your licence, should he think your usage does not warrant ownership. I have not used my van for six weeks, does this mean the DVLA will come round and take my licence off me Frustrated is not the word. This must not be the same for the SGC as I don't think a record is kept. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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